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1989-P Dime Off Center Strike - Name?

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Hi
Can you all tell me what the proper name for this off strike is?
I was think is was MAD but it is off center on both sides.

Thank You, Merry Christmas


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 Posted 12/24/2015  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am by far no expert when it comes to errors. I specialize in varieties, especially RPMs. IMHO I feel his coin is not offset enough to be deemed an error. It seems to foall into the acceptable tolerances for a normal strike.. But that is just my opinion. I was always under the impression that devices had to at least be touching the edge, if not falling off to be considered an error.
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a misaligned die has one side off center and the other normal, off center is misaligned equally on both sides of the coin

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That is what I thought as well, MAD was one side only. So this is struck "off center" just a tiny bit - I am still trying to learn all of these different things and their proper names. Now I am trying to figure out how the BroadStruck coins fit into this also, my learning so far tells me that it is all there but struck smaller to the center of the coin. I still have so very very very much to learn.

Thank you very much for all your help.
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I wouldn't call this one off center. The full die strike is on the coin. If it was off center the edge of the die (the area next to the rim) would have to be off center. Here is an example:
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Note how the rim is missing on areas of both sides of the dime? Also note the reeds are affected on the off center. If the reeds are present and normal, then it is not an off center. On this one you can see w slight kiss of the collar reeds. But they are mostly all missing on off center coins.
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a misaligned die has one side off center and the other normal, off center is misaligned equally on both sides of the coin


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That is what I thought as well, MAD was one side only.

Contrary to popular opinion it IS possible to have die misalignment on both sides of a coin Sometimes in the same direction, sometimes in different directions. It is unusual because the anvil die fits inside the collar and has very little freedom of movement, but it can happen.

Now since none of the design is missing in the OP coin it can't be an off-center. Since neither side is centered it is either a dual MAD with both dies offset in the same direction, or it is an uncentered broadstrike. The key will be the edge. If the reeding is complete all the way around it is a dual MAD. If the reeding is missing or partially missing it is an uncentered broadstrike or a partial collar uncentered broadstrike.
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This is great, I love learning all this detail stuff.

There is one section of the reeding that is larger in area and damaged than the rest of it. Now this may be just from wear, it does not look like coops pictures above.

I have put in a couple of pictures of this area.
The area that is the widest portion off on the front matches to the same side that is the most off on the reverse (sorry If I am not saying that right)

BTW - can you tell me how to do the Quote within the posts?

Thanks




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Looks like it made contact with the collar a bit before the strike, but not during the strike. My coin shows a smaller amount of collar contact, but this didn't happen during the strike.
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