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1981 Cent What Kind Of Error Is This?

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 Posted 12/27/2015  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add domys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its raise if its pressed with another coin I dont think its raise... I think the machine punch the rim twice?
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The press is exerting many _tons_ of force on each strike. When coins are struck twice, it usually obliterates features from the previous strike. This is what your coin would look like if...


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the machine punch the rim twice


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Sorry, your coin is post-mint damage, and worth only face value.
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 Posted 12/27/2015  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add domys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks SPP But I'm just wondering how whould PMD can make to row of beads?
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its raise if its pressed with another coin I dont think its raise... I think the machine punch the rim twice?

If it is pressed against another coin, the beads are incuse, not raised. That is the case here.
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Numisma the beads is RAISED
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 Posted 12/27/2015  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry domys, I believe you have PMD on your coin.
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Numisma the beads is RAISED


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thanks SPP But I'm just wondering how whould PMD can make to row of beads


If you are talking about the features on the reverse (3 o'clock), which your latest photos with arrows on them are showing, then you are seeing an optical illusion. The denticles appear to be raised, but you are seeing the spaces in between the denticles that were pushed into the rim.

Imagine this (since it is Christmas) - you take a dinner fork, and press it into your mashed potatoes... the tines of the fork will form the lows, and the spaces between the tines will be raised, like your "denticles" on the reverse. The pattern is the exact same as the denticles, just opposite.

On some silver coins, you may see the same feature, but all the way around the coin and those may be different (clash marks of the reeded collar die). That is not possible with 1c coins, since the collar die is smooth (coin has smooth edge).
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 Posted 12/31/2015  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add domys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SPP thanks for the input
the denticle and the line you mean is optical?
i touch it it is raise
how can we make the line by pressing another coin?
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The raised area is the space between the incuse denticles from the other coin.
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That area in your last pic is machine damage, the denticles are along the very edge of the die face. IMO
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I don't think so, if the device had MD it would be the normal size but partially flattened.
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By the way Happy New year

This area is machine damaged, not sure how another coin could do that half way around the inside wall of the rim without flattening or damaging the top of the rim.
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This is damage from another coin.
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