3 Oddities? On 1984 P Dime (Mad/ VLDS/ ?)

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MMBarq New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 01/01/2016 10:17 pm I'm not expecting this to be worth a premium but was wondering if you all might find this unusual (or if it's just me) Here are the features: 1) The obverse has an odd lower right rim. Misalignment? 2) the words on the reverse, particularly in the middle, look very fat. I can't tell if this is a weak die, some doubling, or just wear. 3) the complete puzzler to me. The lower right rim of the reverse has an odd protrusion. Very strange shape and I can't explain that. Any thoughts? Edited by MMBarq 01/02/2016 5:21 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Rackster Pillar of the Community United States 4809 Posts	Posted 01/01/2016 10:48 pm Looks like a Cud. Take a look at Cuds on Coins. It may be listed there. Good luck! Report this Post to the Staff
MMBarq New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 01/02/2016 4:09 pm Thanks! I've noticed from that site and other threads here that most Cuds appear to be fully within the rim. There is a minor protrusion on this coin beyond the rim itself. Is that particularly abnormal or just less common? Also, if there is indeed a MAD problem on the obverse, would that make this more unusual or would you expect other die issues on a coin with a Cud? Sorry if this is a bad or obvious question. - Barq Report this Post to the Staff
Rackster Pillar of the Community United States 4809 Posts	Posted 01/02/2016 9:12 pm Hi Barq - I'm not a tool-and-die guy, but I've been around them for most of my professional career so I've learned a thing or two. Hopefully someone with more technical expertise (Mike Diamond, Ken Potter) can drop in on this thread with a better assessment. I have a few Cuds and all are 'protruding' into the field and not limited to the rim. I don't think that yours is less common; just depends where the die decides to fracture. Given the number of rim-to-rim cracks I've come across, the fracture can happen anywhere. There are a few examples at Cuds that show the progression in the size of the Cud; crack migrates to full fracture, may be retained for a period, falls out and then fractures again to create bigger Cuds. As for the MAD error, keep in mind that there is always some level of offset between the die alignments. That's to say, alignment between dies has a degree or less alignment anyway and can be exacerbated by things in the process (set up or during production). While that may contribute to a die failing (perhaps forces are being directed in unplanned ways), I don't think it's particularly significant in this case. Just another multi-error coin. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/03/2016 8:53 pm It is not a Cud. If it were legit, it would be a rim Cud. (Nothing has broken off the die and the circle of the die is complete) On the reverse if looks like it was altered with solder. The reverse devices are VLDS making them look larger. Obverse is weak and shows a MAD setup on the strike of the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
MMBarq New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 01/04/2016 8:42 pm Thanks! Looking at the reverse, I cant see any other part of the rim that looks like it has been altered. I cant understand why someone would solder such a timy, oddly shaped metal piece onto the coin after it was minted. Is it possible that the extra metal protrusion is the result of some other sort of process at the mint? Report this Post to the Staff
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