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Help Identifying Year Of This Pertinax Denarius

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Pertinax was emperor only a short time in 193 AD. So the date is 193. His coins are difficult to come by and command a high price when found. Therefore there are many fakes out there. Would need some better pictures of your coin to say for sure. It would also help to know how you came by it.
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thank you very much for respond and your help
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Yes the title of this thread made me chuckle just a little bit.

That coin does not look good to me by the way.
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i understand your brightness MartiVltori. now I already know that pertinax was emperor only in 193 AD :) iīm still learning,...
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I meant no offense. I am still learning too. As we all are.
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I think the better question is authenticity. I could not find a match in any fake coin website. However, this coin is odd. Please don't think, since you are new, we are being harsh or not sympathetic. However, as someone in my second year of coin collecting I appreciate high scrutiny and any questions regarding authenticity of any coins I possess. As with your gold coin, these are highly valuable and rarer coins. Therefore more scrutiny applies. No dealer is infallible, however if you are picking these up from high end auction houses as opposed to say ebay, that would certainly add some legitimacy to their authenticity.
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Gentleman I can reassure you. the coins are authentic
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How can you assure us?

this coin has a very similar look and luster to some known fake pertinax coins. How can you assure us? No offense but it would certainly not be because of your experience with ancient coins.
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thank you for the discussion, but do I have to justify myself?
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I'm sure you can understand our concern when it comes to the higher end coins like the Aureus you posted and this one. The concern is for you knowing how much money would have to be spent to acquire them. There are many of us here that have been around ancient coins for some time. I have been collecting them going on fifteen years, but I still make mistakes quite often telling a fake from a real coin especially when there is only an image to go by. And some time not a very good image at that. So when we see rarer examples it's best to provide us with all the information you have about the coin. Provenance is always a good indication as to whether it's a good coin or a fake one. In Eastern Europe there are forgers that are so good that it is very difficult to tell good from bad. China has had a thriving forgery network for many years and they show up very often on sites like ebay.
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It is suspicious that you will not provide any other information on these highly questionable examples.

It makes me think you are simply testing the waters prior to selling some fakes.
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of course I can understand your concern and I appreciate that. but thank you very much I am OK
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To put it bluntly your "assurance" means nothing. Data and provenance is much more meaningful.
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martivltori I donīt want to sell you nothing so do not be afraid. no problem
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I am not afraid for myself. Just for other unsuspecting victims.
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