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What Kind Of Error Is This?

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 Posted 01/30/2008  4:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Came across this coins, at first though someone cut it. I noticed, however, that the "cut" is actually struck on top of the coins surface. where it reaches the rim, it is built up on top of it, rather than cutting into the rim.
I have not seen one like this before, and need some help identifying this error. Is this perhaps an incomplete clip?

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 Posted 01/30/2008  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just a damage. Don't see how that can be a mint struck error.
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 Posted 01/30/2008  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, Don't know what caused it though.
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 Posted 01/30/2008  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it is definitely not damage. Again, this is not cut into the surface of the coin, rather it is struck on top of it. If you look at the rim, the part with this cut is raised higher. I've had local experts look at it and they all agree it is an error, just not sure what kind. One suggested it was an incomplete planchet clip, but I don't think that is the case either.
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 Posted 01/30/2008  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like someone made this into a tiebar or pin by soldering a small metal rod onto the coin. There appears to be silver solder along the sides of the raised line. In addition the added metal seems to have obscured part of the King's nose.

It had to happen after the strike because there is no ghosting on the other side.
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 Posted 01/31/2008  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would concur that it's a removed mount mark. Threepences were often converted into buttons or cufflinks.
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 Posted 01/31/2008  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that it has been caused by melting. The ridges either side are the displaced molten silver.

I would also assume something had been attached to display the reverse of the coin as the angle of the mount would make the reverse side upright if a pin or similar had been mounted horizontally.

Not sure that last sentence actually made any sense but I knew what I meant!!
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 Posted 01/31/2008  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm... the melting theory does make perfect sense. Another mystery solved, thanks guys!
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