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What Is This Napoleon III Coin With A Star Of David On It

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I bought this very old necklace today. After acid testing I have found the necklace to be approx 12 kt. The white stones you see are actually teeth. The coin has a reverse side unlike anything I have seen. It appears to be a Star of David surrounded by a wreath of sorts. I can't find a coin like it online. Any ideas?

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 Posted 01/19/2016  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The white stones you see are actually teeth.


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 Posted 01/19/2016  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sjmenterprise to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know, right? I'm guessing someone didn't want to let go of a child or other loved one.
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The "coin" isn't actually a coin - the portrait is significantly different from the portraits used on his coinage. So, it's a medal of some kind. What kind of medal, I don't think we can tell given the condition it is in. I'm guessing, just from the context, that it was specifically made to be used in jewellery.

Nitpicking point: it's not a "Star of David". The Star of David is two interlocked triangles. This is "merely" a six-pointed star.
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Ok, thanks for the info!
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The lettering says Napoleon the 3rd so I'm guessing its French (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_III). Maybe this will lead someone to amore complete answer
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Here's to hoping they were some kids baby teeth
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The wreath looks Ottoman
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The writing on the clasp is French. Most is not legible but I did make out Annecy so it was for sure made in France. (That's a city to those that don't know)
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Also, there are only 25 teeth despite most people having 28
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a real head-scratcher. any possibility of you posting the writing on the clasp? (understanding that it is not very legible in places)
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After more study I discovered that on the other side of the clasp it is marked "plaque or" followed by something I can't make out at all. So I'm guessing it's just gold plated. I retested it on a scratch stone and it still comes out as being greater than 10k but less than 14k. 10k acid has no reaction whatsoever, even with the "coin", 14k has a very slow reaction. Perhaps it is a very thick plate? Too bad it wasn't an actual Napoleon gold coin!
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This is great! A lot of mystery on one item.
As far as I am concerned, I'd probably end up investigating use of teeth in jewelry.
I think it's some kind of a charm.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the 1800's it was common to make jewlery with teeth. I have seen Necklasses made with stag teeth and very fine gold and have seen at least one with human teeth. People were far less squeemish than 21st century people.
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