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1958-P Washington

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 Posted 10/23/2005  11:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone

Looking for grade opinions on this 1958-P quarter !!

I believe it will make a 64 maybe a 65,, so what do you think ?

Thanks
Rick

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Same coin different pics !!

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10/24/2005 02:26 am
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 Posted 10/24/2005  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bulldawg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO I belive it has a good chance at a 65 grade. I could see scratches on the first pics but they weren't there on the second, figured that it was the holder.
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 Posted 10/24/2005  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63/64
There's a small bump in the reverse rim between the D of UNITED and the S of STATES. That's this coin's only serious problem, but I think it's serious enough to keep it at 64 or below a notch. Washington coins are fairly undistinguished and are hard to grade in the mint states because the coin is designed so that the rims are higher or as high as the highest points, which would be GW's jowl and along the line of the cheek, and on the curl behind/above the ear, on the reverse and the breast feathers on the reverse. Here, the coin looks mark free with friction on the jowl and cheek and possibly some roll marks in the fields.

The biggest criteria with this design is the strength of the strike. Strike quality can be determined fairly easily on the obverse by the hair-line, the sharper the better, and the neck area below the jaw and chin (there should be a discernable triangle of shade defining the connection between the neck muscles and GW's fairly sharp jaw. Also on the obverse the curl around the ear should be somewhat detailed. On the reverse, strike quality is evident in the relative sharpness of breast feathers and especially by the strength of the eagle's tail feathers behind and beneath whatever that is that the eagle is gripping. This coin has a moderate to weak strike by those standards, at least in the picture. The devices look mark free and the fields too, which in mint state conditions is pretty much universal. It looks shiny. Pretty coin. Sorry for the length of this essay.
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 Posted 10/25/2005  02:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stephen

I actually appreciate the essay !!

The bump that you reffered to is actually the end of a die crack which runs the length of the left wing edge, there is also another die crack which begins at the R of america and runs the length of the wing edge, and into and through IBUS of the motto, a small die crack from the back of the eagles head across the head to the eagles beak .

Thanks for the opinions !!

Rick

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10/25/2005 03:20 am
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 Posted 10/25/2005  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rick:
Thanks for the die crack lesson. I've seen coins here before where people were noting die cracks in pictures of coins, and have not till now been able to see what they're talking about. I can see the cracks you describe very clearly. Yahoo! Another area of my brain sharpened. I thought it was awfully bold, perhaps too bold, to post actual score opinions, but thanks to this site and people like you, I've learned more in a month than the whole time I was studying the PCGS book. It's kind of like the main rule about diving off the high board: Just do it.
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 Posted 10/27/2005  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connecticoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the first pic, it looks like the coin has some hairlines which would limit the grade to 63. If they are scratches in the mylar and not hairlines, then 64, shot-65.
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