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Really Cool 2 Nickels Removed Mint Marks And Re-Positioned

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So it was a snowy day on Friday and I was off work so I decided to go through my "look at later" stash from my roll hunting. I usually keep coins with heavy die gouging, die trails, and unusual surfaces.

I couldn't find anything about these in my searches for these mint errors/alterations shown below. Sorry about the less than perfect photos, didn't have time to set up my copystand.

While examining my oddballs, I found this 1969-S Nickel that has heavy die gouging/re-tooling to the left of the current mint mark running North and South. When magnifying it, the remnants of a second "S" can be clearly seen.


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I recalled seeing another nickel with similar die gouging/re-tooling running North and South and found this 1987-P that has had the P moved.

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 Posted 01/25/2016  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they are just coincidental scratches
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I see the "s" mark closer to TJ, but a mint mark would be in the wrong position if it was originally there. Same with the "P", except I don't see anything of consequence inside your perimeter.

Both MM are within their expected/prescribed areas.

Ultimately, I can't think of any possible motivation for removing one mint mark and inserting an identical one two millimeters over. And you found them in the wild? And two of them? The probabilities get smaller and smaller.
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Pareidolia



Quote:
the tendency to perceive a specific, often meaningful, image in a random or ambiguous visual pattern <The scientific explanation for some people is Pareidolia, or the human ability to see shapes or make pictures out of randomness. — Pamela Ferdinand, Washington Post, 26 June 2003> <The human brain is optimized to recognize faces, which could also explain why we are so good at picking out meaningful shapes in random patterns. This phenomenon, Pareidolia, could be responsible for a host of otherwise unexplained sightings, such as the face of the Virgin Mary on a toasted cheese sandwich. — New Scientist, 24 Dec. 2011> — compare apophenia

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01/25/2016 11:05 am
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I think this is a phase that I went through. Stare @ something so long, that what you want magically appears.
Case in point: Probably about 6 years ago, I posted a pic, with what I thought was a clash, I believe. I had my naysayers,
some agreed. Probably the last to chime in, said it was tape. This infuriated me, and I said something to the affect of
"what ev". Talk about being knocked down a peg, the last responder was Mike D.
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Typically, these would be Coinstared but in hand there is enough evidence to possibly think someone was trying to cover up a boo-boo. If the fields were not so obviously scratched as to remove something, I would agree with Pareidolia, wouldn't be the first time. LOL

Of course, these weren't from a one day search, they were stockpiled over 10 years of roll searching. I will break out the Canon tonight and micro lens to get a little more clarity and definition. These photos were with my phone.
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For years this was thought to be an over mint mark. It was delisted just a couple of years ago. http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...ie_state=lds
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Hey fioti, so was it tape? Lol
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Oh yeah, but a very special type which.......nah, nevermind.
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Hahahaha
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