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1875 Twenty Cent Proof Or Not?

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 Posted 01/31/2016  1:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add carlanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can you please tell me, how do I know if this coin is a PROOF coin or not?


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 Posted 01/31/2016  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm leaning towards harshly polished business strike.
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The expression on Liberty's face is funny.
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Same here.
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 Posted 01/31/2016  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU Details, POLISHED


Business strike.
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This coin I would like to have in hand .. study it some.

The rims appear flat/squared like a proof, business strikes
are more rounded. Unless a Twenty Cent coin is different.

But then the rim seems to get thinner at six O'clock.
I would think a proof should be a very well struck coin.

Is the camera looking straight down?
Does the picture look close to what the coin looks
like in hand?
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It matches the known proof die for 1875, but that's meaningless, since the business strikes used the same die. The denticles have the same appearance. It may, in fact, be a Proof, but if so, it's been mechanically cleaned or other wise altered and would be an "impaired proof." Certification is a must as even an impaired proof is worth a few hundred bucks.

The presence of wear, by the way, does not automatically mean that a coin is not a proof.

I would not call it a Proof unless it had been certified; I think that as stated it's almost certainly a business strike; 36K minted @ Philly in '75 but only 2.4k proofs.

How did you come into possession of the coin? Most 20 cent proofs have some degree of cabinet provenance.
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IMO, not nearly struck as the few first hundred pieces would be off the proof dies. Business strike from proof dies if the diagnostics were to match. Certainly harshly polished and very soft looking.

If it were a proof and was PCGS or NGC imprisoned, it would be a lower PR Details and probably bring under $500. As an MS Details its probably under $200. You'd want to get it certified through your nearest PCGS partnered LCS and grab what you can unless you love it so much you want to hold onto it.
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Strike doesn't appear like a proof. It's been polished to the point that it may not matter.
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strike looks off center unless that is lighting effect...

nice coin never-the-less
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