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New Member
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For Canadian coins, in order for a coin to be considered FINE does the line need to be completely visible all the way across or can their be some wear in the center? I'm confused because someone said f on one of my coins on here, another person sent me to a site to help with grading and that site said it needs to be completely across... and if there is center wear on line on the crown it is only a VG? Sorry so new to this... (I've attached the photo of the coin I am talking about) Melissa 
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The crown doesn't need to be full to be considered F12. That's moreso a VF. What you have there is likely an F12
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hey Melissa,
For George V coins, this is how I go about it:
VG - only a part of the crown's band (the line) is visible on both sides. By only a part, I mean in total, both would make about 1/3 oh the whole line's length.
For F - you'd be able to see a bit more of the line. A bit more than a quarter on each end, and so just over half of the line in total. Another small indicator I use is that the top of the ear is compete in a F, and it isn't compete in a VG
Hope this helps
Edited by Paulsz 02/01/2016 12:36 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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So in the above picture, it is a F
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New Member
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That helps a lot. Thank you so much.
Melissa
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Pillar of the Community
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Grading is always a matter of opinion not a matter of fact. IMO this coin coin is VG10
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Sometimes the denomination (and composition) of the coin comes into play (which can only complicate DBM's very valuable point mentioned above). If your coin was a 1-cent, with that level of wear, it probably would be VG, if it was a 5-cent, then VG-10, but if that was a silver 50-cent, it most likely would get a F-12 grade, here is an example: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1931-Canada-...361423159596
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Pillar of the Community
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Here's an ICCS graded example on ebay. Again, just an opinion, but their opinion is one that sells coins. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NFLD-1918C-5...AOSw7ThUf2bp Check ebay for ICCS graded newfoundland coins. For selling your collection they will be the standard of grading of worn (circulated) coins you will want to emulate.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
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Great points on grading in this thread which can be expanded upon with a grading book such as, Guide for Grading Coins of Canada by Andre Langlois. I would have called this VG10 for my collection.
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The coin of SPP's example is a Canadian 50cent not a Newf. Grading standards are different for the two. Wear apparent on George, graded f12 Canadian, would only grade VG10 Newfoundland. This fact is supported by The Standard Grading Guide For Canadian Coins and by viewing many ICCS graded 50cents.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 02/01/2016 1:17 pm
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New Member
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Great info!! Thank you.
So when it comes to rim nicks and scratches... this doesn't affect the grade right? But affects the value and should be moted. Am I correct?
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: So when it comes to rim nicks and scratches... this doesn't affect the grade right? But affects the value and should be moted. Am I correct? In a nutshell, correct! Those things are considered damage.
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New Member
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I'm gonna give thus a try. This is a 1917 Newfoundland 25 cent coin. I am going to grade it as a FINE... am I correct? Or is it strong enough to be VF? This is actually a lot of fun. Never thought I'd enjoy coins as much as I have the last couple of days :) 
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Pillar of the Community
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I would grade that at F15 myself.
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The last coin looks like a VF-20 to me but, would like to see the reverse. 
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