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ID Help: Bible Passage Engraved On William III Coin

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This came in a flip as 'William /GB/ Religious Token AG 2/-'

On the obverse it has the remains of a counter mark at 6' o clock, and on the reverse it has engraved 'Christ is God, Isaiah 9:6 v, No 120.'

My theory is that engraved an entire set of worn coins with bible passages, this being the 120th in that set. The countermark on the obverse is their name.

Has anyone come across something like this before? Or know any general info about these things?

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Never saw anything like it -- but I wonder if if it wasn't a Sunday school gift for scripture memory. "Christ is God" is not a part of that verse -- but one could extrapolate that meaning.

Anyway, my guess is that the recipient memorized 120 verses or passages.
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Dang, buddy, that sounds like a heck of a good guess.
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The engraving is pretty nice but not up to professional jeweler engraving standards.

The verse makes me think it was given out around Christmas because that verse is used in the Bach cantata.

But it's just a guess (from someone who won the scripture memory contest year after year...)
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Thank you all. I guess we'll never know - unless a former owner encounters it on these forums - unlikely given the age of the coin.
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You never know -- there may be more out there and since you've posted this there is a better chance of making a connection if there is another one.
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The host pictures William III, so the coin dates to 1700 or a little before. Yet the king's visage bears well over a century of wear putting the carving into the age of Charles Dickens. "The Biblical cite runs: For unto us a child is born, to us a child is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Sound familiar. Are you humming along at this point. Handel composed the Messiah in 1741 as an English language oratorio using the King James Bible. It was first performed in 1742 as an Easter offering. I suggest the carving significantly post dates the premier of the Messiah. No 120 remains a mystery. Many have pointed out the use of "120" in the Bible to mean all sorts of things (i.e. the number of Disciples who helped choose a replacement for Judas after that ancient unpleasantness), but similar coincidences occur for most every number. It is probably too big to be a count of how many six pence were awarded presuming this is a Sunday School prize as that would put the total purse at 12 pounds to this point. After a dozen pounds in prizes they ought to be well into the New Testament in my opinion. It must mean something else.
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