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I'm trying to get a 1981 and 1981A note for my US FRN collection and ebay is pretty frustrating. Wading through all the "poker", "mini-radar", "fancy SN" and other marketing monikers, I see plenty that are billed as "mule" notes. Now I know what a mule is, but does that really make a difference? Particularly in a 1891 1981 note? Edited by CelticKnot
02/08/2016 10:18 pm
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What does a mule reference with currency?
With coins I know it's one demomontion on one side and another on the other side. Like a quarter back on a dollar. Or the old reverse design on a new year.
If the currency is like that, one dollar on one side and twenty dollars on the reverse I think it would be worth more. However I don't see how that is possible with currency but I don't collect it to know enough.
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Celtic Knot wrote: Quote:I'm trying to get a 1981 and 1981A note for my US FRN collection and ebay is pretty frustrating. Wading through all the "poker", "mini-radar", "fancy SN" and other marketing monikers, I see plenty that are billed as "mule" notes. Now I know what a mule is, but does that really make a difference? Particularly in a 1891 note? Couple of questions: 1. What denomination FRNs ? 2. Do you have a specific Friedberg number you're searching to find? 3. You mentioned 1981 and 1981A, then wrote 1891 in your last sentence. I'm assuming you want small size FRNs. More info the better for us to assist.
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02/08/2016 12:29 pm
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Any mule would be worth more for sure.
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Some of the 1 dollar non mules are harder to find than the mules for the 1981 series.
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A mule is a note that has a large size check number on one side and a small size number on the other side. Sounds simple, but it's a complex subject. Across the spectrum of small-size notes, there is not a hard and fast rule as to which is worth more. The expression derives, of course, from the mule animal, which is a cross between a donkey and a horse (and cannot reproduce).
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02/08/2016 7:53 pm
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A small-size mule is a note that has a micro plate number on one side and a macro plate number on the other. Micro numbers measure 0.6mm and macros measure 1mm high. During the transition to all macro plates, both micro and macro plates were in use. Usually these different plates were side-by-side on the same press. This occurred because the BEP had a standard economic policy of using up obsolete plates rather than scrapping them. Whenever micro faces are paired with macro backs, or macro faces are paired with micro backs, a mule is produced. Some mule notes are scarce, while some are not. Sometimes the non-mule note is scarcer than the mule note for a given series. Source: Heritage Auctions. Link below for complete page. http://currency.ha.com/c/ref/questions.zx |
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The same reluctance to retire still-useful plates led to the changeover-pair varities as well.
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02/08/2016 5:48 pm
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In the 1977A Series One Dollar Notes, some of the back plate numbers carried over to the 1981 Series. The same for the 1981A Series. Some of them (1981A) were made with 1981 Series back plates. Example 1981A Series Block Letter DB Mule back plate number 701 and the non Mule has a back plate number 14. Then you get into the change over pairs. Example 1981A D93404965A back plate numer 417 and 1981A D93404966A back plate number 58. Colleting this way is up to each person. I started collecting Mule and non-Mules after I got one each block letter from each Series starting with 1963 to present.
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Argh! Sorry, guys, I meant 1981, not 1891.  And $1 FRNs. Mea culpa -- apologies for the typos and lack of detail in the OP. SHAME! SHAME!  So, I am trying to track down a 1981 $1 FRN and a 1981A $1 FRN for my collection. Are mules the norm in 1981/A notes? I'm not finding ungraded "CHCU"/"CU" for less than $8 shipped per note (and all those seem to be (listed as) mules). I know it's ebay but can I expect to do better than that? Quote:
Some of the 1 dollar non mules are harder to find than the mules for the 1981 series. @Missouriblue, that's what I was wondering. Quote:
Do you have a specific Friedberg number you're searching to find? No, but should I be? At this point I'm just trying to fill in two missing holes in my 1-of-each-series-and-a-few-varieites set. Thank you for all your replies and information. |
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Here are some other varieites, in case you did not know
1963 Mule
1974 Back Plate Error 905
1977A MUle
1981A Back Plate Error 129
1985 Back Plate Error 129
1988A Face Plate Error 106
1993 Mule
1995 295 Plate Error
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Thanks, Missouriblue! PM received and I've made a note of those varieties you listed. Will research those and see about adding them to my collection.
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