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I bought this first 1863 $2 note a couple years ago raw and had it graded. I liked it because it had a low serial number and it was in good shape. Fast forward to a few weeks ago. I was browsing on ebay and stumbled across this raw $2 noted. I quickly noticed it was the exact same series with the exact same serial number. So I had to purchase it... Even though I am extremely confused why they would put the same serial number on two different notes? I have a pretty nice size collection of obsolete currency and this is the first time I have ever came across this. Would any of the more seasoned collectors care to educate me on this?  |
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I forgot to mention that they do have different signatures and plate letters but why the same serial numbers?
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Come on.....Does anybody know why these two notes may have the same serial #'s?
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In some cases these are sheet numbers where every note on the same sheet has the same number. The differentiator is the position letter. I don't know foe certain if that is how these notes were numbered but I have seen it in other CW era obsoletes.
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Are the position letters the B & J(?) under the 2 on the left?
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To me, the font is an Old English type which is sometimes hard to determine which letter is which. I think the holder has the plate position letter wrong. To my eye, it looks like a J. Compare it to this one on Heritage http://currency.ha.com/itm/obsolete...ption-071515My knowledge of obsolete notes is woefully lacking however, it seems to share similarities with national bank notes which would come later. This being: Notes printed 4 on a sheet with the same serial number but different plate positions (A,B,C,D) or (E,F,G,H) Why there are different signatures I can't answer that. Edit: to change the nonholder note plate position it does resemble a B when I got to looking at the Heritage auction archive. -MV Edited by MeadowviewCollector
02/09/2016 8:42 pm
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In the book Confederate and Southern States Currency, Volume 1, 4th Edition, page 15, perhaps we find an answer to the question:
"Serial or Plate letters are those letters usually next to the serial numbers. For example, if a note was printed in a sheet of four, there would be four serial numbers the same, each with the four different plate numbers."
Edited by techwriter
02/09/2016 8:26 pm
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Thanks guys for this information. Very interesting. I would think by me having two of the same serial number that these would be somewhat rare considering they were issued. I doubt the true value would increase, but still pretty cool. I have about $80 in both notes including the grading fee for the graded one. I would have thought that these notes would have shown more wear since they had an earlier number but I guess not.
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Just an observation but I do not believe the PMG note is plate letter " F ", unless it was printed INVERTED. My thought is perhaps an " I ". Cannot be " J " since no notes were printed with that plate letter.
You might consider a review by PMG. I've not reviewed all possible calligraphy fonts available/used in those days but sure is worth another look.
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The PMG holder indicates "pp F" -- plate position F, and I would concur. It's just a funky gothic font.
As to why the sigs are different, they were signed by representatives of the treasurer. Perhaps one signed the A-D stack of sheets and the other signed the E-H stack.
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I think it may be and "I" as well. I found this picture on ebay and it appears to me that this is what a "F" would look like.  |
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 Good research there Connor !  Nice note you found also. |
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Thinking a little more about this...I guess multiple signers could sign notes on Plate A with Serial # 11 and so on through however many plates there are. There could be a lot of #11's floating around....
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