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 Posted 02/17/2016  08:59 am Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Learning my way around here....

Why are the counterfeit forums locked at the present time?
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We're done. Yesterday I reported a blatant counterfeit seller for the tenth time and their account is still active. Also they won't touch sellers that spend a lot of money. I'm fuming right now, I told them we're done.
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Well, it was nice while it lasted. I am sure this took up a lot of your time.

Can we still post about counterfeits in the regular forums?
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Talk about counterfeits, sure.

But don't go pointing out every counterfeit you see, it will annoy the crap out of most members.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is sad/irritating. Anyways thank you Bobby and others for taking your time and making ebay a tiny bit safer anyways!
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LocalCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bobby I feel your pain brother ...... I learned a lot about the counterfeits - Thank You (wanted to do all caps on that btw) for your time and efforts ..... Thank you .....

Seems GSC was the tipping point, unfortunately money talks!
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby-

I hate to ask, but here goes... without revealing trade secrets, etc. - how many additional supporters would it take to replace the ebay advertising revenue?

if it was a small number, say 100, we could probably do a promotion to gain that many supporters and drop ebay adds and referrals. If it would take 100,000, clearly no go.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby, I can understand your feelings here... I'm relatively new to the forum as an active member and felt that I was doing something good for the numismatic community, and the forum members here, by sharing my decades of knowledge collecting US coppers. But I must be honest; I was getting tired of seeing so many counterfeits of the key dates, especially those fake s-mint Indian Heads in the rolls. Creating a good post, editing photos, takes time. And there seemed always to be another to report. I don't know how you were able to deal with so much crap posted, PLUS get pushback from ebay supporting big sellers. I'd have a blowup.

As a specific pet peeve, I'm going to continue working with that counterfeit 1914-d Lincoln Cent that GSC is selling. If I can plan a little ahead, I'll buy it, do a deep photographic study, return it as a counterfeit, and give a big fat negative feedback.

Someone with deep pockets and a legal background needs to sue, or threaten to sue, ebay for facilitating in the sale of counterfeit coins. Having evidence, like what we were doing here, would put ebay in a very bad light in front of a judge.

Have you burned all your bridges at ebay? I hope not. Things have a way of turning around...
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnDeVito to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to you bobby. I too learned a lot and your work surely save a lot of people from making costly mistakes. Seems to me that ebay will be a place to avoid when it comes to coin purchases.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby, can we not still have a counterfeit ebay forum, albeit one with no action taken? I'm afraid too that the Classic and Modern forums will be inundated with postings of fakes.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe, I'll think about it.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LocalCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sent GSC this message about the 1914-D Cent:

Bobby, (Guy at GSC not bobby131313)

That sounds like BS, especially the camera angle, come on bro I checked my birth certificate and I was born at night but not last night .....

OK here is what I am thinking .... I will bid on this coin and get into my hands and take to expert and if it comes back fake, I will involve the Feds .....

I STRONGLY suspect this to be a fake, similar to the 1922 No D coin GSC attempted to pass off .....

GSC has some big guns and I'm just a tiny little consumer but I am not afraid to voice my opinion .....

I request you remove the listing, it is a fake!

Best,
Ansel

Please: Do Not Bid against me, I'm going for this .... Go-Rebels if you want to get together with me maybe there is someway you can contact me, I don't have enough time here yet for me to contact you .....

I'm even thinking about doing a buy now page on ebay for $5 and you get a Wheat cent in return to help fund this ..... I'm going for it!



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 Posted 02/17/2016  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimNWLincoln to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby - thanks for all your time and efforts. I feel that this forum has made a difference with its ability to block the sale of Chinese copy/counterfeit coins. It has also been a good resource for identifying the characteristics of 1909-s-vdb and 1914-d Lincoln cents. Best Regards - Jim
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 Posted 02/17/2016  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ansel, I doubt you will get a reply.

I posted a question to GSC too yesterday morning... in a manner a little more, er... neutral.

GSC has yet to respond back to me.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure you are blocked now too.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby, I thought so too, but I just checked and I'm not yet blocked. That's not to say that GSC just hasn't yet gotten around to me...
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