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$500.00 Coin For $15.95

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 Posted 02/17/2016  12:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add priorpence to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In a small antiques store with just a few coins, I found a very hard to find key date, I don't think he knows coins. My first reaction was grab it and run. Nice guy. Not sure I would feel right not telling him, but I guess that's what cherrypicking is all about. What are your opinions and what would be protocol. I'm sure there are various opinions on this. The coin in question is a 1913 dime broad leaves.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it a fake?
Purchase the coin, take clear pics of it and post them here.
If its a $500 coin then you can do what ever you feel is rightfully fair.
Worst case your out $16 but on the flip side if its a fake you can contribute it to Nickelsguy for examination and further the learning curve on fakes.
Usually if its to good to be true...
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 Posted 02/17/2016  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
buy it and see what happens!
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 Posted 02/17/2016  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I agree purchase the coin post pictures of it and we will see if it's real or not then you can tell your friend about the value.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hate to say this but if you don't really know the dealer just pay the asking price he or she probably paid very little for it.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Morally it is a tough one. I'd feel bad if it was an elderly person. Though I suppose, Ignorance is bliss, but once it's posted in a public forum and you have stated your intentions, it becomes a grey area ethically, maybe. I guess this is the darker side of the coin hobby. Best to keep these things to oneself maybe, and a hypothetical maybe the best way to present a question for the public. I mean no offence, just brings forth different feelings, and I do understand the predicament.
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Well said Alan. On the topic of ethics and honesty, it works both ways.....priorpense, put yourself in the shoes of the antique store owner and do what you think is right.

Interestingly, it's habit to smear a seller who takes advantage of their customers but the other way around?....seems we hunan's often live by somewhat of a double standard.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or you can just ask the guy 'why are you selling a $500 coin for $15.95' if that makes things easier.
I know I would have ask him that myself...but that's just me. As mentioned sometimes these things are best kept to yourself.
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This is called cherrypicking and is considered morally OK by the numismatic community.
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he knows what he paid and to him it worth 15.. you do that he is happy .. I told someone once about year ago and still now they over priced every coin making the place worthless to even go in and look. And looks like he has no sold many since.
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I'd say 90% of collectors do this or dream of doing this.

It's what fuels a large part of this hobby.

Let's be honest with ourselves.

I've done it many times.

On the other hand, I've sat at Bob Armstrong's table once and told him he had a dime mis-identified and it was worth about $500 more than what he was selling it for.

I couldn't 'cherrypick' him on that because he was so good to me for so many years.

But there's a handful of dealers that I couldn't wait to cherrypick from because I know they would give it right back to me if they could.

I guess it depends on how you feel that particular day.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly, if you know the dealer it's different, they would not price 16.00 if they paid a lot for it.
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 Posted 02/17/2016  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't get me wrong I'm all for cherry picken, but I think its up to the individual as each situation is different.

Priorpence stated..

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Nice guy. Not sure I would feel right not telling him


kinda like what Doubleeagle stated

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I couldn't 'cherrypick' him on that because he was so good to me


I still say buy it and post it here.

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Exactly, if you know the dealer it's different, they would not price 16.00 if they paid a lot for it.


Little antique stores, especially in low traffic areas where they're often located, cannot be compared to a typical coin dealer. Have you never been in one? Often there's so little money in it that most consider it more of a hobby than a business.
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Wildflower said "Interestingly, it's habit to smear a seller who takes advantage of their customers but the other way around?....seems we hunan's often live by somewhat of a double standard."

Rightfully or wrongfully there is little sympathy in society for the capitalist. On the other hand, the consumer should get a correctly represented product. Without this, our capitalist system doesn't work and the consumer becomes afraid to consume and that's not good for anyone.

Now, the coin and antique business can turn what I've mentioned above on its head, because for the most part, buyers are sellers, and sellers are buyers, and it seems both parties feel that they're pulling the wool over the other's eyes, oddly.

My best advice is, keep these things to yourself, and you will only face reckoning from within. Don't turn to a public forum to validate what you think deep down inside is wrong, because you'll likely end up feeling more confused than before.
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I've told many dealers at shows that they have stuff mismarked and show them the true retail price and that they should change the holder. If I buy a coin and then later find out that it is a scarcer variety, I'll flip him a nice little bonus and tell him thanks.... it really helps when you return at later shows since they remember. I did that, also, to Bob Armstrong at a show and he peeled off $50 and told me thanks.
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