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SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10458 Posts	Posted 02/22/2016 8:50 pm The term 'ghost' or 'ghosting' refers to the strong flow of metal so much into one side, that the outline of that image can be seen on the other side of the coin. UK pennies from Edward VII and George V show this the best. You also see ghosting on uniface strikes. This is not a simple die clash, but a Type II counter-clash. Quote: Type II counter clash is not common, in fact I think quite scarce. , yes it is very scarce in Canadian coins. Quote: As for CCCS they just called it as books were calling this variety.It is good to see other coins being found with interest. Just because someone published it (in this case, MKB owns the publication company) - does not mean it is correct... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
Alexer Pillar of the Community Canada 2632 Posts	Posted 02/22/2016 9:42 pm Quotes are from ErrorRef.com http://www.error-ref.com/2012-04-09/ Quote: Among the rarest and most desirable forms of die damage is the Type II counterclash. ........................................................... Ghosting http://www.error-ref.com/progressiv...gn-transfer/ Quote: Since coins that are in a Late Die State (LDS) develop this trait, it is considered a form of Die Deterioration. CCCS.. Report this Post to the Staff
chadcoins Pillar of the Community Canada 1159 Posts	Posted 02/22/2016 10:04 pm This variety there wasn't much interest in it and almost declared it for the Darwin Award for a variety that killed its self in the past. Going to follow the ebay auction close. After looking at it again you guys are correct with the Type II Counter Clash. OK!! I'm doing 50 push ups,50 jumping jacks,and 50 sit ups for coin punishment. Report this Post to the Staff
Alexer Pillar of the Community Canada 2632 Posts	Posted 02/22/2016 10:14 pm Quote: OK!! I'm doing 50 push ups,50 jumping jacks,and 50 sit ups for coin punishment I know that feeling..lol If that coin was listed as type 2 counter clash it may attract some high end error guys.. Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9865 Posts	Posted 02/22/2016 11:09 pm Alexer said Quote: Type II counter clash is not common, in fact I think quite scarce. SPP said Quote: yes it is very scarce in Canadian coins. Look at the three "ghost" coins in the following discussion,one of which is chadcoins discovery piece on page two. http://www.numicanada.com/forum/vie...777&start=45 Look at the CCCS coin on ebay from SPP's original post. They are all different. If type II counterclashes are so rare how can four different ones appear on 2003 old effigy cents. Odds against this are compelling. Can some error expert please explain? Seems more likely that something else is the cause, but what I don't know. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
Alexer Pillar of the Community Canada 2632 Posts	Posted 02/22/2016 11:51 pm I'm no expert but how about this. The 'press operator's' may have changed the die's out several times before realizing the problem was stemming from a broken or stressed machine part (maybe even a washer) as a small pieces of metal kept breaking off and ending up in the striking chamber. It is only 2003's so far as I know. Is that possible? Report this Post to the Staff
chadcoins Pillar of the Community Canada 1159 Posts	Posted 02/23/2016 12:31 am DBM, I never followed this variety much and now gained interest again. I found only 2 of these and there the same as in my picture. Very interesting variations that others are finding of this die clash!! Report this Post to the Staff
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