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CCCS Seeing 'Ghosts'?

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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2003-GHOST-D...281940379216

What kind of crazy error name is that? Ghost Date?

This is a Type II counter-clash, why doesn't CCCS use the normal nomenclature for errors, or, like PCGS if they don't know the error, then consult someone who does!

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Geez, that doesn't exactly bolster credibility.
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Sent one of these to ICCS but you cant see the image through all the plastic casing. The hard slab looks like its much better.Here is a nice close up of this variety.

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Haha saw that this morning and had to laugh.
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This image is from the C&C just about looks like is yours Chadcoins.

Maybe this is where someone at CCCS referred to for reference (ghost).
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I will have to correct everyone, they pirated my picture but don't really care. I discovered this variety back in 2003 and posted it on the internet and MKB and others used this pic. I called it the Ghost 00s because you have to tilt the coin about 20 degrees and the 00s appear in front of the coins nose. As for CCCS they just called it as books were calling this variety.It is good to see other coins being found with interest.

I guess the best name for this coin is Type II Counter Clash / Ghost 00s
am I correct?
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Well you named it chad, so ghost it is I guess. It's a classic clash, but it's kind of a chicken egg thing. The error appears on all sorts of coins and we know this to be a clash, but for selling purposes, ghost sure sounds better. Neat coin.
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chadcoins yours is not the only image. that I have seen posted in other forums. we put good pictures up. they are available to anyone. I have also seen rmp picks of pennies. on other forums as well.
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I dont think the term ghost fits here, a ghost is something (center image of opposite die) pressed into place within the die over time and more often associated with Die Deterioration. just my opinion
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Alexer question here is a picture of a loonie. I have this 2013 loonie. the security mark appears to be top of the queens hair. that security mark is meant to be on the reverse side and it is. them how could it be on the obverse side. would be ghosting is this what you mean.

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No Rocky thats not what I'm referring to. But there are 2 types of ghosting I'm aware of the other one is a grease ghost, neither one of these terms really fit here. IMO

Let wait and see what SPP has to say..
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I have removed my initial post to this thread because I was in error. Since I really don't collect small cents, I didn't realize until later thinking about it and looking again that this was not just a simple clash of the reverse onto the obverse. I now realize that the anomaly is quite scarce, but misidentified. Nice find, but the wrong words inside the plastic.
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Type II counter clash is not common, in fact I think quite scarce.
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I can see how the 'ghost' wording spread around since 2003, even CoinsandCanada used it and a lot of people use C&C daily.
If Chadcoins was the first to find one then I guess he can call it whatever he wants I just dont agree with the word ghost being used as its a type 2 counter clash.
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