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Valued Member
Australia
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Valued Member
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left coin 3.3 g right coin 1.6 g
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United States
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United States
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United States
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I agree with Bob L. You can see the GAS on the obverse (circled). I rotated the picture to the correct orientation. 
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 United States
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Yes, I agree with Bob L a little more on this. There is a squared off letter "m" above the three fleur-de-lis that is diagnostic. That would make your coin a double tournois from 1639 minted in Dombes. Obv legend is "GASTON.VSV.F.DE.LA.SOV.DOM" and rev legend is "DOVBLE.TORNOIS.1639". You can see a bit of the date and if you rotate the obv pic by 180°, a little bit of the "VSV" is still legible. Interestingly, I don't see a 1639 listed in my Krause, but my edition is pretty old. As far as the second coin goes, I'm thinking it is a jeton. See the below thread and if you squint, you'll see the imperial orb on one side and alternating fleur-de-lis and crowns on the other side. : https://goccf.com/t/44840
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Edited by Spence 02/22/2016 9:03 pm
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Valued Member
Belgium
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second is a nurmberg jeton
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Belgium
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Correct, right one is a Nurnberg counter token. Here is some history: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/nuremberg-jetons.htmlHere is a SIMILAR one:   jeton of Georg Schultes IORG+SCHULTES+ Mitchiner, 1988: nos. 1309-1310 L.Forrer Medalist, volume5 SCHULTES, GEORG (Germ.). Counter-Manufacturer at Nuremberg, circ. 1550. Neumann, Beschreibung der bekanntesten Kupfermunzen. Prag, 1868, V, p. 403, describes seven counters, some of which are dated 1551, 1552, 1553, and 1556, on which the Engraver's name occurs in the following forms : IORG SCHVLTES SPENGLER ZU NORMBERGIGMA; IORG SHVLTES SPNGLER ; IORG : SCHVLDDS : IORG; IORG SCHVILTES and GEORG. SCHVLTES. IN NVRBERC. Georg was possibly the father of Hans Schultes, and the founder of the Schultes Counter-Manufactory. Corrections welcome and another: https://goccf.com/t/197158&SearchTerms=nurnbergThe legend on a lot of the Nurnberg tokens mimics medieval writing
Edited by Petrus 02/23/2016 07:33 am
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United States
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Quote: some of which are dated 1551, 1552, 1553, and 1556 Your example looks like it's dated 1512, or is that 1 just a misshapen 5?
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too good every one thanks dave
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