'political Correctness' Topic Deleted In General Discussion

If it is easier to blame your cat, I understand.

...but if you wouldn't mind, can you elaborate on "going nowhere fast"? I guess I'm just trying to understand the (un-written) rules a little better, so I won't go through the effort of starting any future posts that you're just going to lock/delete. Why does a General Discussion topic have to go somewhere?

Do you feel civil "arguments" might somehow hurt the CCF?

Thanks.

ok. with all due respect, let's be specific here. if you don't mind:

1) what is allowed and not allowed for the General Discussion?
2) how/why do you decide to censor content that doesn't violate the posted rules?

as I am fairly new to this wonderful forum, please educate me on your un-written "rules". otherwise, one might get the wrong impression in that you are acting as a kind of Lord in deciding what type of free speech will be tolerated here and what will not.

Thanks!

one fine dime:

I personally love a great conversation with many different points made....

I have no clue what thread you started.... but I will say this... I absolutely LOVE this forum and the general tone of most posters...

I have been a part of many other forums and found this one to be very much like a family and family orientated...

The mods here do a fantastic job in many ways and they maintain a very nice atmosphere.

There have been threads I have been part of that have in the past been deleted.. I asked why and have never received an answer... but to weigh the pros and cons... put simply it doesn't matter.. I enjoy this forum more than I care for one or two threads and why they were locked or deleted..

I guess you will now have to decide... is this place the right place for you... is this the atmosphere you enjoy... or would you prefer a more liberated forum... if so... there's other forums out there for you...

I'll tell you what, you can come to the next coin show where we give away literally many thousands of coins to kids and invite them to join our forum, all the while assuring their parents that they won't see anything they shouldn't. I'll reserve a spot at the giveaway table and YOU can tell these kids parents what they may or may not see.

Here's the bottom line. This is a numismatic forum. I will not lose one second of sleep over offending someone by removing posts or topics in General Discussion. Not one second. Quite frankly, I couldn't possibly care less.

At the risk of stepping into something that is really not any of my business, I will relate my experience on another forum and why I would agree with Bobby on this one.

I post on a financial forum, a pretty popular one. It is also pretty closely monitored. It is this way because past experience shows you what happens when it doesn't go that way. So, they will tolerate somewhat off topic posts such as "what's your favorite guitarist", but political topics are strictly off limits. Even ones that are related to finances. Why? Because they always devolve in a nasty mess that the moderators have to get involved with. So when Bobby says "I could see this one was headed south", I know exactly what he means. So the policy on this other forum is, this is a financial forum, iff you want to talk politics, go to a forum where that is ok. It's not ok there and is enforced quickly. You get to the point where you can just see the lock coming. It's that obvious. It's a much better forum with this moderation in place, believe me.

So this is a coin forum, so even further removed from politics in my opinion. On both forums, I try to self moderate - i.e., do I really need to post that. Sometimes, something gets deleted - maybe something I wrote. It can be frustrating but it is really for the greater good of keeping these forums a nice place that sometimes stuff gets deleted or locked. Moderator is a hard job so better to just understand that sometimes things might not go the way you agree with. CCF is a better forum overall because of the moderation, that I am quite sure of.

Just my Two Cents. Back to coins now.

If I could insert myself here and not step on anyone's toes.

Yesterday I was wondering how long that topic would last since it had the potential to get far more personal than the U.S. Election thread.

I was a member of several quasi-political forums for a few years and threads that get to a user's core beliefs are likely to devolve very rapidly into personal attacks. As far as it got the thread was very respectful but it had the potential to get ugly especially when topics like race start to be discussed.

It only takes one user trying to provoke a response to cause a lot of hurt feelings in threads like these.

Personally I have very much enjoyed these threads, especially with some opposing viewpoints, but I can understand why they cause bobby and the moderating team a lot of unease.

It is bobby131313's sandbox and we as posters just get to play in it if we follow his rules. Freedom of speech only limits the government, not private sites such as this one.

The problem with that statement, is that you've shown you're not capable of this by saying in another thread:




That is a childish, personal attack because you're implying that someone voting Republican or who is a Republican is a clown. I don't know what thread you are talking about that was deleted, but I believe Bobby is a pretty good judge of how a thread is going to progress and, as it has been pointed out, it's his playground. Nothing more needs to be said beyond that.