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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 This coin was part of my haul today. It doesn't look right, doesn't feel right, doesn't weigh right. The details seem to match the coin pictured in my Krause, but the colour doesn't look anything like silver. It looks closer to lead, or perhaps pewter. The coin feels rough, and I believe it may be a sand-cast copy. The coin is too light to be genuine silver. I'm sorry, I don't have a scale to weigh the coin. Anyone out there who is knowledgable in counterfeit or copied coins, I'd love to know more about the history of this coin. :) Thanks in advance!
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Hi ElleKitty,
As you say it does appear to be a cast counterfeit.The fields look rough, there blob to the left of the horses tail and looks to have a soapy texture (all signs of casting). It is strange that someone has pierced it, but this was probably done to make it appear more genuine.
My bet would be that it is a more modern Chinese counterfeit (seen some of the same date and coin before) as apposed older counterfeit.
Regards,
Hus
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Hmm. Maybe the original coin they were casting had a hole in it too, or perhaps they were trying to make this one look more realistic. The metal showing inside the drill hole is a shinier silver than the face. There are several such holes/marks on the face of the coin.
Ah well, I was hoping for an older piece, not a modern Chinese bit. I knew it wasn't a GB Crown, but it's still very interesting and it didn't cost me a thing.
Thanks for your input, Hussulo!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Certainly looks like a modern counterfeit. It should have a strong base-metal smell, which is unpleasant and somewhat reminiscent of sulfur (though not nearly as strong).
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New Member
Australia
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Hi I am new to this list and am interested in knowing more about this coin. I have an 1900 issue, some slight dents on the edge, silver in colour and has some weigh.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, last week I picked up a counterfeit Australian Crown of 1937. It is a really beautiful piece, and I defy anyone to pick it visually: beautifully reeded edge; plenty of detail in the King's hair; clear fields (not cast).
However, is is only 19g, correct weight is 28g. I think it's a bit thin also.
AND ... get this ... my newest forgery is MAGNETIC. Which gives us a clue what it's made of.
Yesterday, I bought a nice little magnet for $2, and I've added it to my numismatic tool kit.
Peter in Oz
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Valued Member
Canada
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What types of things would you suggest for a numismatic tool kit?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
I'd recommend doing as much reading as you can, buy from reputable dealers, and study the coins you are interested in. The more you study originals even if they are worn the easier it will be to spot a fake or damaged coin.
Carry a small jewelers loop or magnifying glass with you which will help to see more detail on the coins you inspect and you will notice any hairlines (signs of cleaning)any other damage (ex mount etc.) and have more chance of spotting a fake.
Pocket digital scales are quite handy to have as well. Especially if you know how much the genuine coin is supposed to weigh. Something to measure the dimension of the coin like digital calipers or even a small ruler (less accurate) always come in handy.
If you buy from a seller with good returns policy and your not sure, then post a picture on a forum and ask the advice of others if it is fake you can then hopefully send it back for a refund.
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