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1860 Pointed Bust Indian Cent --- You Vs NGC

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I just got this coin this week and I'm debating on trying to cross this over to PCGS. Curious to see what you think this graded. It is not attributed as the "pointed bust" on the NGC holder, so at the very least, this might end up going back to them to add the designation. Its a very attractive coin with tremendous eye appeal. Tough to find with surfaces and strike details like this one.

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Grade- incredible.
MS65-66
Let's call it 65+
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MS 65, due to the mark above the eye.
Very nice coin!
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MS-65 at best because of the "carbon spot" between the bottom two feathers. The rest is super.
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Bill I hear you on the carbon spot....the only pictures of the PCGS graded MS67 for this date shows a big one on the last feather. Can't see how it got MS67. That coin sold for over $32000 too!
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I'll go MS64...gorgeous coin.
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MS-64+
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Someone else can pay $32,000 for the coin with the spot. I would never do it. I am not an advocate of grade-flation.
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Exceptional example. Since the carbon spot is much too insignificant to detail this beauty, it does not affect the technical grade in the least.

Tech grade 64, market grade 65.
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That coin sold for over $32000 too!


Some people pay for the plastic, without really knowing what's in it.
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I think it should make MS66RD. I have a 65 and this one is a little nicer. Really nice strike and eye appeal
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MS-65 , Very nice IHC .
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Lots of people pretty spot on here. Its graded MS65+, which if properly attributed at NGC would put this in the top 3 graded there. Ive tried to not buy coins recently, but could not resist on this one.

Now comes the second part....Do you think PCGS would cross this over? I have to pay the "guarantee premium fee" that they charge though, on top go normal grading fees.
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MS-65
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Not sure what the point would be in a cross unless you think it's a 66 coin. I think CAC would sticker it, though.

That's a beautiful coin either way -- stunning original example of a tougher date. I can see why it got the +. The two minor carbon spots and the tiny nick above the eye might have kept it out of a 66 but not by much.

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I don't see any point in spending the money to cross this one over to PCGS.
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