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Pamp Perth Gold Bars Assay Numbers Blacked Whited Out ?

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 Posted 04/02/2016  01:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

When I see Low feedback sellers posting Gold Bars in assay cards, with the serial number blacked or whited out, a red flag goes up.

With gold selling for $1,200 an ounce. I want to see the exact bar, obverse and reverse.

Months or years down the line, I don't want to find out its counterfeit.

A few seconds to scan or photo the bar, is not much to ask for an expensive item.

My Opinion-Blacked or whited out serial numbers indicate potential Counterfeit.

Get your gold bars checked out by professional buyers, a jeweler or even a pawn shop.

If you don't want to take it out of assay card, most shops have hand held X-RAY machines, call first.

Don't respond and say don't buy it or buy it and find out if its real.

The Far East is doing everything to ruin the economy, counterfeits are showing up everywhere.


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 Posted 04/04/2016  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if the number was showing, I wouldn't buy from a low feedback seller. In fact, I only buy bullion from the major dealers on ebay.
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 Posted 04/16/2016  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
China has recently released a fake bar with "The Perth Mint tamper-evident case" printed on front of assay card.

I always check dealers feedback. Make sure they are reputable.

If you have doubt, bring it to a gold dealer who has a counterfeit metal detector. Most have them, call first.

After all, its an expensive sale.
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 Posted 05/22/2016  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:
Seller goldnsilver232 (11) Item 282019536984 sold $1308. on 4/30

This is another example of a fake gold bar with whited out assay serial number. Low feedback [11], has sold $20,000+ in gold since 3/02. Make sure its real!

This is the feedback from buyer:
"COUNTERFEIT|LeftOnDoorStepNoCARE|THICKNoMatch2PAMPSpecs|DAMAGEDInAssay|WATCHOUT!"

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05/23/2016 02:14 am
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 Posted 05/23/2016  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:
Seller tazzysvault Item 121939781165 sold on 4/01 feedback "Item is fake. Does not weigh properly amount. NOT REAL GOLD. No serial number."

Seller tazzysvault Item 121970229849 sold on 5/01
feedback "sold me fake gold"

These are 2 more examples of fake gold bars with whited/blacked out assay serial numbers. Check your gold!

tazzysvault [7] Low feedback. Has sold $17,000+ in gold since 4/01. Make sure you authenticate your gold!



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05/23/2016 02:06 am
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Seller goldnsilver232 (11) Item 282019536984 sold $1308. on 4/30

the sad thing is all the other buyers of his gold bars are happy, positive feedbacks. they have no idea..
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 Posted 05/23/2016  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is why I don't buy bullion on ebay. Scams like these are easy to allocate, some are (much) worse to identify. I already got scammed once on a sales portal (not ebay) on something much less hefty and that was an eye-opener for me. It kicked off my collection of fake (silver) coins, though. :)
That's why I rather just buy some in shops I trust when I'm traveling to foreign countries for work or pleasure (in Norway there's generally too much added costs to be profitable to invest, I usually buy the exceptions to the rule). And mostly gold and silver (classic) coins at bullion prices, I don't collect bars that much. Bars aren't that tempting to me: I also want eye-candy. :)

Anyway, for those getting scammed and giving positive feedback... There's a Dutch word called 'leergeld', which literally means 'learning money'. I guess we all have to pay a bit in order to get wiser... and some more than others.
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 Posted 05/29/2016  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seller goldnsilver232 at least 2 feedbacks have been updated with negatives.

282019536104 added "This person is a crook beware! All gold being sold is counterfeit BEWARE" $650 sold on 4/30
282019535660 added "This person is a crook BEWARE All gold being sold is FAKE BEWARE" $645 sold on 4/30
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05/29/2016 02:53 am
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The key is to not find out it's counterfeit years down the road. Take it out of its assay certificate and test it yourself. If you're relying on serial numbers to identify any object, well what can I tell you... Who cares about a plastic holder, just take it out because you want the GOLD not the PLASTIC. Caveat emptor.
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 Posted 09/25/2016  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just got these 2 counterfeit bars from China.

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China has recently released a fake bar with "The Perth Mint tamper-evident case" printed on front of assay card.
I always check dealers feedback. Make sure they are reputable.
If you have doubt, bring it to a gold dealer who has a counterfeit metal detector. Most have them, call first.

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 Posted 10/04/2016  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just have to re-post this.
To all you idiots out there: Keep buying counterfeit gold from un-repeuck-able, Low Feedback sellers.


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When I see Low feedback sellers posting Gold Bars in assay cards, with the serial number blacked or whited out, a red flag goes up.
With gold selling for $1,300 an ounce. I want to see the exact bar, obverse and reverse.
Months or years down the line, I don't want to find out its counterfeit.
A few seconds for Low Feedback sellers to scan or photo the bar, is not much to ask for an expensive item.
My Opinion-Blacked or whited out serial numbers indicate potential Counterfeit.
Get your gold bars checked out, X-Rayed by professional buyers, a jeweler or even a pawn shop.
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 Posted 11/01/2016  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Low feedback seller with whited out serial #
They are showing up all over ebay.
rodspshop 322313125637

http://www.ebay.com/sch/rodspshop/m.html



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