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I took a look and 005 and 006 have a similar bar over the 7. But I've none of the markers. I need to check CONECA next but thought I would put it to the group. Thanks! Edit: nothing there either. Doesn't seem like anything listed.  Edited by Rackster
04/05/2016 8:31 pm
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That is machine damage on those devices. Not how it reduces those devices. If it were a 1970 coin it might be a DDO on the top of the 7, but it is not that year. |
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Hi coop - I know that MD can happen on both sides, but isolated to just the 7? Seemed weird. Here's one shot with the diffuser in place.  and one without (40x)   Edited by Rackster
04/05/2016 10:36 pm
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Looks like MD to me also. I see it on the 9 also. John1  |
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You might make a side by side with a normal coin to see if that is the case. (it does happen sometimes) ADDED: I just made a side by side. It is larger than normal. I just check coppercoins and there is one that might be a match. Did you compare markers? http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mdsEdited by coop
04/06/2016 9:16 pm
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Thanks coop. I did use a reference 1971 at one point and this subject coin looks thicker, but the MD on it also reduced the effect making it difficult to tell. Plus some die wash where the device meets the field. At this point I set the coin aside for further study, but it was taking a bite out of my search time which is limited. Trade offs.
The dent on the top of the 9 looks like a hit, but it is possible that it's from the tool movement if it is MD as John suggests. It is the first of this date that I've seen the seemingly isolated effect so worthy of the investigation. I appreciate the follow-up look. Maybe it has you scratching your head a bit? Is there an angle/pic that you would like to see (e.g. the side-by-side)?
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Here are where the markers would be.   |
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Dates comparative coin  subject coin  |
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Your coin is in that LDS/VLDS range. So the markers for 005 or 006 will not match. Several hundred thousands of coins were struck between their coins and your coin was struck. I'm leaning on the 006 because of the longer mark above the 7. 005 is shorter in length. Mark that way for now. Maybe we will find images of a later die state to see if any marker match later on.
I just checked Variety Vista and they don't list anything like this for the Philly bar above the 7. But for the Denver and San Francisco dies they do. But your coin isn't nice enough to submit. But there must be more examples out there?
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04/07/2016 12:52 am
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Thats Good news-i had hope for this one rackster  Edited by Slamnbass
04/07/2016 01:55 am
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Thanks for having another look coop. This is the first one I've seen, so to your point, a flip with a tentative 006 designation will suffice for now.
Slamn - I hope so too. I think it is but the later die state makes this one a little tricky. That and the MD just south. But I'm happy to have a representative 1971 specimen so another year filled.
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When I checked variety vista for a different die stage, they didn't have a listing for the Philly DDO for that year. So check again another time to see if someone submits another coin. |
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That's the plan coop. I've a number waiting for comparative data/pictures to line up with. I imagine you have a stockpile that fit that description.
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Oh yea! I just noticed that Variety Vista have a listing for the 1962 doubled dies. I've got to get at the proof cent DDO / DDR I have for the 1960-1964 proof cents. |
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