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How To Turn Bullion Into Jewelry?

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 Posted 04/06/2016  10:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add greenprint to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
If I wanted to take some of my gold bullion and turn them into rings, is there a company that could do this for me. I mean I laugh at how much some of the gold wedding rings cost and paying a couple thousand dollars for such a small amount of gold. Lol is it possible to provide the gold and get your gold made into a ring to factor that out of the price?
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 Posted 04/06/2016  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, this is very much an idea that can be done. What you need to do is search out a small independent jeweler that can do the entire process on their own. When I was engaged my future wife and I found such a person, we were able to design our own rings and she provided diamonds from her grandmothers rings. We paid only a small fraction of what we would have paid in a jewelry store and were able to get exactly what we wanted. I think we paid less than $300 for both of our rings. You will need to do some shopping around to find the right person but this can be done.
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 Posted 04/07/2016  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What really? Thanks for letting me know. I just wanted to be sure. I laugh at spending so much on wedding rings for such a small amount of PM. Did you use bullion? They mixed other metals into the gold before they made the ring? I think bullion would be to soft?
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 Posted 04/07/2016  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This will more likely cost you more than just selling the bullion and buying a ring. Many unscrupulous jewellers might tell you that they made you a ring out of your gold when they simply melted your gold and took the cost off a pre-existing item.

Often customers will bring bags of scrap gold and want them turned into something, but to sit at a bench and hand make something is always going to be more costly than to buy something mass produced. Obviously wedding rings have gold content which is costly, but with the wages of staff at the manufacturers and the retailer, rents rates, insurance and other expenses, not to forget the boss wants some profit, the actual cost of materials might only account for 20% of the cost of the item you buy.

Sure it is possible, but to hand make a ring there will be wastage and labour costs. A mass produced ring cuts that sort of thing to a minimum. Either way the jeweller still wants to earn a profit.

With wedding rings the superstition is that it is unlucky to buy secondhand (though they can be polished up so well you might never know) simply because its possible they came from a failed marriage. My advice would be don't get married, but that's another topic!

If you aren't the superstitious type then buying at auction might be an idea...if not maybe a friend in the jewellery trade who can get you one at cost as a private sale saving you some money.

If not I am told with a flat iron, hammer, drill, fret saw and file you can make a ring out of a gold coin by tapping the edge and turning it a few thousand times, then drilling out the centre... not a technique I have every tried but interesting enough.

I personally would make a ring from scratch myself, but the expense of the tools would be more than the profit earned by the jeweller...

My advice is suck it up, you only get married once (if you learn your lesson!) so take the girl into the jewellers and let her choose... bite the bullet on the cost and just get what you want.

Also talk of adding stuff to the mix to make the gold hard... 9ct is gold with silver and copper and is very hard wearing but not a deep gold colour. 18ct is the best colour in my opinion and the material of choice for all quality brands like Cartier etc but is quite soft. 22ct is popular with the Indians and Asian markets and is very orange in colour but quite crumbly and soft.

If you were using a Krugerand for example they already added something to harden the metal (which is why the coin weighs more than an ounce but only contains an ounce of gold) Some mixes of gold contain nickel (which causes an allergic reaction in some people) White gold is mixed only with silver but tends to be a bit flat and dull so is usually Rhodium plated. Rose gold is mixed only with copper to give a reddish colour. If the jeweller truly melts your coins to make your rings it is easy to stick a bit of silver and copper in the mix, not all jewellers have expensive rolling mills in their workshops though so most will just get the materials delivered to work from...
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04/07/2016 07:07 am
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My experience has been something like oldephriam.

Find a small jeweler that will work with you. Maybe one that is just starting
out, that has some talent.

I have done this three times for myself and once for a friend.

The first time I provided the diamonds, mostly from my metal detecting finds,
My wife and I worked up a design and the jeweler made the rings just liked
we wanted. I think we had 3 or 4 hundred into the two ring, but that was
30 years ago.

Last year I had a 1.3 caret diamond,,another metal detecting find.
I went to a jeweler that was working out of a local coin shop.
He had catalogs of rings that we could look through. We picked a
white gold Tiffany setting with the right setting for the diamond.

Here is the ring with the diamond just sitting on top.

How-To-Turn-Bullion-Into-Jewelry?

We had this ring made for less than $500. But we did have the diamond.

I am sure you could find a jeweler that would use
your gold, but I do know they like to start out with
.999 fine gold.

The big part of rings like this is the diamonds.
If you don't have your own diamonds, you need
To find the wholesalers in your area and see if
they would work with you.

I know this can be done, and you will save over 50%
versus buying at the big jewelry stores.
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 Posted 04/07/2016  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My ring is a combination of white and yellow gold and is of a simple design. I did this because I knew I would be working with my hands for a lifetime and would be rather rough on any ring I wore. This has proved true, I went with 10k gold knowing it would hold up and I have all of my fingers now because of it. I once had my hand get caught in a rather large hydraulic door that was closing, the ring stopped it and was only slightly bent. It saved my finger and my hand.

I say go for it. In the end it doesn't really matter how much gold you use because you will have the satisfaction of having a ring that is very much uniquely yours.

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 Posted 04/07/2016  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Supplying the stone is a much more worthwhile idea than supplying the metal IMHO since the stone is already in the form it needs to be, and this saves the jeweller running around to source it. The metal however creates more of a headache than it saves since it likely will not be in the form the jeweller needs (ready made collets, shanks, sheet metal etc)
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 Posted 04/07/2016  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a hand-hammered 18 kt band from Old Newbury Crafters. They don't do rings anymore, and didn't use bullion to make them. The ring is similar to this

http://www.mwmgoldsmithing.com/Othe...-1/i-ctDgtSC

You'd have to contact MWM to see whether they'd work with your gold. But count on the cost of custom work being much higher than the bullion itself.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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04/07/2016 11:02 am
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My wedding band was made from a Great Britain sovereign. Of course, that was on the little island country of Mauritius. I I watched while it was made in less than an hour.

It's less expensive to have a suit or a shirt made than to buy one off the shelf.

You can have almost anything made from scratch if you have the supplies needed.

Good reason to take a vacation there!
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 Posted 04/07/2016  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone is interested in talking with a master jeweler about doing this pm me. I have a local guy here in socal that has been a custom jeweler for 35years. I give him scraps of gold and gems I find in storage units and he transforms them into works of art. Very reasonably priced too especially if you provide the materials. And somewhat quick although he has many loyal customers that keep him busy at times. Anyway just thought I'd through it out there to pm me if you'd like his name and number to talk. Has a storefront b&m. Of coarse all the stuff would need to be done through usps, email and phone but he's darn good at what he does.
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 Posted 04/10/2016  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My main tip: avoid places where the rent is high, like shopping malls. Their expenses are through the roof so they pass the cost to their customers. 18 karat is the best (best shine and pretty good durability), but 14 karat does the job nicely. I wouldn't recommend 10 karat white gold for anything ever, it's the jeweller's and the customer's worst nightmare (lol I'm not going to get into it but just avoid 10K white do us all a favor). It's best if you already have some rapport with a jeweler: the best way is to test their abilities and honesty is by giving them some repair jobs.

DavidUK provided a very helpful technique for buying, and that is, buying the stone first. As a designer I was given this advice because it's much easier to source gold than a stone, and settings are easy enough to make. However, I would say that for diamonds it's no big deal because they are plentiful - it just depends on if the quality of the stone bothers you. Some diamonds can be quite large but they are visibly cracked or the color is not ideal. Cut is usually not a problem with diamonds because they are so hard that most settings can handle the abuse; they just squish into place like putty.

Yes, with some easy research one can see that fine gold is not the only thing that goes into a piece of jewellery. There's alloy too, which is not free, and the best jewellers have done the legwork and have the experience to use good alloys, not the cheap crap. The reason for this is that the metals are given properties for certain tasks, like casting versus fabrication, some alloys are good for recasting, which is favourable to casters.

Anyways, longstoryshort: DavidUK gave the best advice so far. Listen to the guy.
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04/10/2016 1:23 pm
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