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1973-S Ike 40% Silver Bs DDO

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 Posted 04/11/2016  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice
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 Posted 04/13/2016  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cross-eyed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took the coins out to My LCS for Their opinion.They said, that the reason the coins are not listed, is because all of them (73-S) are doubled (master die),and I should save My money.
He had two,although a later die state than Mine,that had the same doubling.
Which makes Me wonder if They are right?Does anyone else have a 73-S without doubled die IGWT?
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 Posted 04/13/2016  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question? First I've heard of that. If someone has the new " Cherry Pickers Guide" That might shed some light. They listed one. But the question I would ask is: Whey are the two Dies were seen from that year different. The image I have is off a slabbed example from HeritageCoins.com that is slabbed. I would check with John Wexler and see if he knows/heard about this? He doesn't have any listed for that year.
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 Posted 04/13/2016  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have two of these coins as part of sets. One was in the set that I bought back in the 90's and one is out of a Blue Pack that I just got the other day as I'm putting together set #2. They both look like your coin. I can't find anything at Wexlers for 73 either.
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 Posted 04/14/2016  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
73s clad or silver? I have a roll of 73s clad proofs and only 3 of them have split serif doubling. And if you want to send them to someone I wouldn't send it to john wexler... send it to Brian or Thomas here. THEY are ike specific variety attributors. I think it's $6 or $8 per coin and if it's a new variety of consequence they will send it to anacs and have it labeled as a discovery piece. Accept no substitutes when it comes to ikes...

http://www.ikedollardoubleddie.com/
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 Posted 04/15/2016  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, I just learned that Thomas Kalantzis has just passed away from a brain anurism so I wouldn't try my above suggestion. Even with Brian. I'm sure he's devistated. We lost a good one guys

http://www.lincolncentforum.com/for...pp=10&page=1
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Quote:
Cascade:Hey, I just learned that Thomas Kalantzis has just passed away from a brain anurism so I wouldn't try my above suggestion. Even with Brian. I'm sure he's devistated. We lost a good one guys

Oh wow!Sorry to hear that.My sympathy goes out too Those who knew Him.

I was leaning towards sending the coins to IDDD.But knowing this,and the fact He was working with Mr. Wexler,I went ahead and sent them to Mr. Wexler.He should have them in hand the first part of next week.I'm not really holding My breath,but I will cross My fingers.
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 Posted 04/17/2016  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paola1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a big fan of Ikes ! Great coin! Very interesting comments about double dies ...
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 Posted 04/18/2016  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cross-eyed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Paola! I'm not particularly an Ike fan,but finding this one has peaked My interest enough to go through the rest of them.And I am pleased to say that I found a 72-s 40% PR, and a 73-s 40% PR,as well.Although the markers are slight enough I don't know that I can capture it on "film" with the equipment I have.
Hopefully,Mr Wexler will e-mail Me with some good news.Which I'm sure will pull the Ike series up too the top of My favorites list.
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 Posted 04/18/2016  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paola1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was curious and checked my 73 silver and the doubled is there ....if I understood it's a common thing for this year right
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 Posted 04/19/2016  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cross-eyed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The answer too that will cost ya $25.No,not really.
I asked the same question in the OP.When Mr.Wexler lets Me know,I'll post what he said here.So We'll find out one way or another.
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 Posted 04/22/2016  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cross-eyed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the LCS was right.



"I have processed the coins that you submitted for attribution in a package postmarked April 16, 2016.



The doubling that you see on the obverse of the two 1973-S Eisenhower dollars is the result of a doubled master die. At the beginning of a given year a master die is produced with the coin's design for that year. Hundreds of working hubs are then produced from the master die. The working hub is then used to produce hundreds of working dies. The working dies are then used in the coining presses to strike the coins. If there is doubling on the master die, then all working hubs produced from the doubled master die will have the same doubling. In turn, all working dies produced by each of those doubled working hubs will also all have the same doubling. In such cases all of the coins produced that year will show the same doubling with some minor differences due to hub and die wear. You can access more information on doubled master dies on my website http://www.doubleddie.com by clicking on Doubled Dies in the left column menu and then scrolling down until you find the link for Doubled Master Dies.



The doubling on the reverse is even worse as it traces back to a doubled master hub. The master hub was created for use over a period of several years. Each year the master hub would be used to create a master die for that year. If the doubling can be traced back to the master hub, that doubling will be found over a period of several years. In this case the doubling that you see on the reverse of your 1973-S Ike dollars can be found on all 1973, 1974, 1977, and 1978 Ike dollars making it way too common to have any value.



I hope that this information helps.



Good luck with all of your collecting efforts.



Sincerely,

John A. Wexler"
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 Posted 04/22/2016  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another part of the puzzle is revealed. I'll have to check out his listed of master die and master hub doubling. that would be a great help when figuring this out.
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 Posted 04/23/2016  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cross-eyed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't say we didn't give it a good try. Thanks again for all Your help coop!Maybe next time.
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 Posted 04/23/2016  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there will be another time. The next coin might be it.
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