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Training Your Coin To Tone

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I am quite fond of the toning on this classic commem:

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I'm wondering if I can somehow "train" my modern commemorative dollars to tone this way? Is it possible to impart a dark tone of this nature by submitting the coins to small doses of tone inducing media? I've heard boiled eggs, tissue paper, manila envelopes, sunny window sills.

what if I bury them in the soil? what would I bury them with? boiled eggs?

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buy some bullion or junk silver and practice/experiment to see what you like...

IMO - eggs get too brown
envelopes - take too long
window sills - it's from the off gassing of the wood with different humidity due to temp fluctuations = hard to control

Ground.... I wouldn't go there .. between the moisture, acid content and who knows what else... there's never been a dug coin I have seen that was of better quality than it's previous original state.
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 Posted 04/09/2016  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potsdam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You sure could 'train' them to tone like that but some collectors (including me) would probably argue that influencing a tone in some way or another is not what a natural tone is about.

Personally, I like the variety of tones in my collection and therefore put new coins just there and see how they develop.

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Natural toning may take decades to occur, it is Not something that happens within a few months .
Forcing this will probably be detrimental to the natural "Lustre" remaining on a coin especially an uncirculated specimen .
I have always liked a toned coin and lately it has become "Fashionable" and many dealers/sellers are artificially toning coins to take advantage of this.

There is also a culture of forcing toning on to previously "Dipped" coins in an attempt to hide the obvious dipping and I find this to be an "unsavoury" practice to say the very least.
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I absolutely agree with you trout1105. I've got some coins that have a beautiful tone and especially here in Germany, it is rather uncommon to accelerate toning or to use eggs or something else to alter the coins look.

I take my coins as they come and I am quite happy with that.

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 Posted 04/09/2016  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go to a gun store or sporting supply place. Buy some gun bluing solution and try that on your coins.
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That is a beautiful coin, OFD!

Personally, I would not waste too much time chasing that formula. Time is better spent enjoying that coin and searching venues for others like it.

But that is just me. Other opinions are worth consideration.
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If you'll notice the OP's coin, the "untoned" areas are on the high points - what has actually happened here is the coin originally toned evenly, then some secondary process (wear, handling, cabinet friction) has taken away the toning on just the top points. This is a standard "circulation cameo" effect and should be relatively easy to replicate using accelerated (artificial) toning methods. Not without damage to the coin, of course; "toning" is merely a euphemism for "corrosion".
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Thanks for the good feedback on this everyone. I didn't mean to mislead you into thinking that 1921 Pilgrim was mine. It was recently for sale on ebay: http://r.ebay.com/yU65uz

I came across that and really dig that dark toning w/ circulation cameo (as Sap indicated).

Regarding the whole artificial toning argument...yes, I can completely appreciate that consideration. I realize at some point down the road, someone may try to sell my coin collection, whether it is my children or grandchildren, etc. I wouldn't want to have artificially toned coins being passed of as naturally toned.

But for my own appreciation of creating something unique (dark circulation cameo on modern commem silver dollars), I may go ahead with some experimentation. Still undecided on it.
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But for my own appreciation of creating something unique (dark circulation cameo on modern commem silver dollars), I may go ahead with some experimentation. Still undecided on it.
Despite what I said earlier, I certainly have no problem with this if you find enjoyment and satisfaction in the learning process.

Just do not experiment with anything too valuable.
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I agree 100% with jbuck!!
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