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Forum Mom
 United States
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Hi everyone. I got an email from a collector who has been trying to identify this coin for some time. It is the size of a silver dollar. I don't have a weight. He said that he has been told by a dealer that it is quite valuable. I think it is based on a pattern dollar, but is counterfeit. I don't like the looks of the denticulation, though I can't find a casting line. All opinions are welcome.   |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I know nothing but is looks cast not stammped from the picture. Though the picture is a bit fuzzy which may explain the lack of sharpness to the design.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There are 2 known Dollar patterns for 1851, the Judd 132 Pollock 159 Silver Dollar Judd 133 Pollock 160 Silver Dollar. I do not have any photos of either, and cannot find out much about either. I would suggest getting in touch with Rick Kay http://www.patterncoins.com/ |
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United States
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Forum Mom
 United States
5877 Posts |
I was not aware of an Indian Head pattern dollar. I got this in a COINAF email. I just ordered a Pattern coin book that I should have next week. Sorry, I didn't have the coin in hand to provide sharper pics. I had to rely on the scans sent to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it is a commemerative token, It does not bear all of the devices to make it legal tender, when you think about the obverse design the Indianhead featured did not appear on a coin until 1859, with the Longacre Indian Head cent . Just a thought Rick |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
954 Posts |
I'm 99% sure that is a "coin" from our friends in China. I saw one on ebay a year or so ago  |
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Banned
New Zealand
306 Posts |
I have got an American 1851 gold $1,which has a Liberty head on it.The piece posted in the photos above is definitely a fantasy,as the colour is not right.
Aidan.
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New Member
United States
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quote:
Originally posted by Metalman
I think it is a commemerative token, It does not bear all of the devices to make it legal tender, when you think about the obverse design the Indianhead featured did not appear on a coin until 1859, with the Longacre Indian Head cent .
Just a thought
Rick
I've seen it offered several times and have never been able to figure out what it is. My best guess is a later-struck (or cast) piece based on the IHC, with a reverse based on the G$1. To the best of my knowledge, it is not of Mint origin. |
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New Member
United States
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BTW, I am certain it was not created in 1851. It had to be post-1858.
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Valued Member
United States
363 Posts |
I noticed the lettering on the obverse is like the original lettering of the IHC, but that on the reverse is pretty simple and not very artistic, like from some cheap stamping device. It doesn't look like any lettering from that (1851) era. Also, it seems like it would be illegal to make such a thing, saying United States of America, giving a date, and a denomination. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Please excuse my ignorance, but could it have been minted (or cast) in a U.S. territory for local useage? Now I have to go look up a couple of termms in the links to make sure I understand them properly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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While there were some private mints over the years, 99% of them worked in gold. There were also private companies that used copper, silver, and gold as store cards and political items, but 99% of them are well known and documented.
This piece is fantasy piece. Many companies have made such tokens/coins as advertisements. The most famous was Chrysler.
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Posted 11/01/2005 10:09 am
