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Coin Found - Edward I Penny?

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 Posted 04/12/2016  06:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hype to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all.

We found this on a Sunday afternoon walk, it was lying on top of a freshly ploughed field in Staffordshire. From what I've gleaned so far it's a penny from the reign of Edward 1 - circa 1279? Would appreciate any further information that anyone could provide.

Many thanks in advance.

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Nice find...

Looks like a silver penny from London possibly spinks 1384...

There are many varieties of these...but I can make out Lon-don on the reverse and EDWREX.

I thought it was Spinks 1380 but the style of the crown made me think it is 1384, which is described as "annulet below bust for Abbot of Reading" but unfortunately there is wear on the lower half of your bust so I cannot confirm... your crown has a spike on one side and a dot on the other though which is possibly a clue to the exact type.

Size and weight is often a good clue to mention, but I am no expert on these types of coins... so I am sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in and help you out.

A nice old thing though, and I would be over the moon about finding such a thing.
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Thanks for the response, I'm an absolute newcomer to this but I'd found something listed as Spinks 1382 which seemed to fit the bill, so at least I seem to be in the right area.

And yes, the EDW REX is what enabled me to get to the point I'm at now. In full I believe its: EDW REX ANGL DNS HYB (Edward King of England Lord of Ireland).

And we were definitely over the moon upon discovery, especially as it was completely by chance during a Sunday afternoon walk!
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Here is a fairly high grade Edward I penny for your review. The indented "X" you see on the obverse is due to the cross on the reverse which took up the metal when the coin was struck.

The Spink number on this one is 1408.

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This illustrates the differences in the crown. On Bills coin the crown doesn't break the lines seperating the bust from the legend. On the first coin the crown beaks those lines and you can see instead of 5 spikey bits there are only 4 - the 4th one just being a dot.
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I'd bet on Spink 1382: The "EDW REX" rules out 1384 and the letters "N" (which are reversed) rule out 1380. The band on the crown is also very plain - ruling out later "new coinage" pennies of Edward I, II or III.

Interestingly, the photos in Spink and North (English Hammered Coinage Volume 2) both seem to show that right-hand crown ornament as a dot - though neither mentions it as an identifying feature.
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