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Can Any Identify This Electrum Coin? Even A Region Or Time Period Helps.

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 Posted 04/12/2016  10:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JayCameron to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
First, I bought this in one of those scammish) 100 uncleaned coins. I have about 10 good ones from careful cleaning, but this one is intriguing.

So, I've cleaned it, but I don't want to clean it anymore, as I don't want to damage anything that might get me an ID.

The obverse is rather shot.

The reverse shows a bear? or some large animal.

Picture makes it look rather copper-ish, but, yes, it is electrum. I have weighed it, and gathered fragments from the obverse. They both test for silver and gold.

Ive been everywhere from Lydia all the way to Byzantium.

Help!

Thanks very much!



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If you have weighed it the size and weight would be helpful.

Photo's of both sides too.

First impression was it doesn't look like electrum to me, because electrum isn't very reactive and this looks corroded... but if it tests for silver and gold then I must be wrong...

I look forwards to someone shedding light on the mystery...



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 Posted 04/12/2016  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JayCameron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not correded in the typical sense, but it does have chemical damage on the obverse mostly, some on reverse. It was basically a sphere of dirt when I got it, and after (on and off) MONTHS of cleaning it, I used harsher chemicals...
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 Posted 04/12/2016  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are the sizes ? diameter , weight and thickness ? Early electrum coins have a particular form , so more photos if possible . albert
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 Posted 04/12/2016  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JayCameron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh the size... Well as I said, it was a ball of dust. And as I got frusterated over about 5 months, I took just about every harsh cleaner you can think of (short of h2SO4), and oddly I think ethanol and or acetone -- the latter of which applied only to obverse, made it shrink. I know, it sounds odd, but it did. At that point I didn't know it was electrum, so I didn't know what I was messing with!.

I will try to post weight and mm soon.

In terms of the bear motif on the back... any guesses?

I thought it was a lion at first, but it really looks like a bear to me.
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 Posted 04/12/2016  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JayCameron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not only that, but I cleaned it once or twice with copper coins. I believe their dirt may have infused, at least superficially, with the surface of this coin.

Oh boy, I wish I knew it was not just copper when I started!
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It has me stumped. Looks like an Ewok to me.
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Not my particular area of study but my best guess would be taken from this Wildwinds link.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/gree...GCop_098.jpg

The forelegs a 'leaping ram' are similar and an 'A' (for the Antioch mint?) is visible.Does the obverse have any clues?
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That link didn't work for me on either of two browsers. If I parsed the link correctly, here is the description for the coin referenced:

Antioch, Syria. Time of Augustus. AE 20mm. Laureate head of Zeus right / ANTIOXEWN MHTROPOLEWS, Ram leaping right, looking back; star above; "A" monogram below. BMC 68. SNGCop 98.



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Sorta looks like a three quarter view of a lion.
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