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Switzerland
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Hello, a question that has bugged me for along time now is, (allthough I can speak relatively good english) the correct, or most accepted numismatic term for something. It`s this: In german we say "Stempeldrehung" or "Verdreht" to describe a coin thats obv & rev are not as they should be. I have always described them in English as a "Turned Stamp" which I guess is probably wrong. This is a question that I have wanted to ask now for the better part of 25 years, but have never really bothered as my day-to-day language is German and I have never really needed to know it, but it would be really cool to know just how one is "supposed" to call these kinda coins. PS: I dont need info on how this happens, all I am looking for is the most accepted numismatic term in English for "Stempeldrehung"
Hope someone can help :-) MfG from Switzerland
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think you are referring to a rotated die error.
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New Member
 Switzerland
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@ bmanofnbc - Sweet as a nut, cheers for that. (never heard it before, must be used more in the States than in Europe) I have gotten away for years by calling it a Rotated stamp, or Turned Stamp without anyone saying boo to a ghost about it! MfG
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 United States
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to describe a coin thats obv & rev are not as they should be I think you are talking about alignment If so there are 2 types. Coin Alignment and Medal Alignmentwhen flipping a coin from left to right and the image is upside down on the reverse it's Coin Alignment. When you hold it and turn it from left to right and the image stays the same as the obverse...it's Medal Alignment also called "coin rotation" and "medal rotation" hope this helps edit: and to add to bmanofnbc's statement it's considered and error of rotation when there are differences. Edited by GO
02/17/2008 8:00 pm
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United States
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Rotated Die Error  curious...does the swastika in the coin have to be covered up in Switzerland? |
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Switzerland
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@graceoutcast-Sweet as a nut--Cheers
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Guten tag und willkommen zum Coin community forum . I wollte immer wissen wie Man das auf deutsch sagt. Rotated Die Error ist Korrekt. Ich habe fur zwei jahre in Deutchland gewohnt.  |
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New Member
Switzerland
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Homer1? As I buy and sell alot of nazi military too, I know that it`s alowed in the states, but the Swastika (Hakenkreuz) is forbidden here- hang a flag outside your house and you`ll end up in trouble! And rightly so, as interesting as it is/was....we should`nt gloryfy it in ANY WAY!! (spelling...i know)
@N-Giles-Servus, schön für dich das du deutsch reden kannst, aber ich denke nicht das die meisten Amerikaner Deutsch verstehen? Oder doch? hi hi... Mit freundlichen Grüssen, CMG
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New Member
United States
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I believe I have one of those coins except I've never checked it to see if it's a rotated die. That would be funny if it were.
I have seen quite a few coins bearing the Swastika but I never realized that other than coins & banknotes it was prohibited. Thanks for the info.
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New Member
Switzerland
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""I still have some Marks and phenings have to recheck them.""
@Homer-Forget it. you may find a rare mintmark, but a misstrike or anything of interest... forget it. like I said, I have concentrated on this specific area for 2 decades now, I know all the right people, and until date, my collection is at a MISERABLE 40 coins! (sure, there are Essais too that are woth a few thousand) and I guess if one seriously go`s into an area like this, then finding these kinda coins every week just aint gonna happen! Slowly but surely..and when I do.. then it`s all the more fun :-)
PS: I have bought batches of Reichs-coins before from all over europe (10s of thousands at a time) and have never found one before :-( The ppl who usually have them, wont part with them.
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Valued Member
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What is the reason for having the Swastika what does it represent or stand for. I think the Swastika first appeared in early Egyptian culture as being the under world, is that true.
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02/17/2008 9:09 pm
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New Member
Switzerland
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@DantheGrey-ANYTHING to do with national sozialism is banned. If I put a Reichscoin up on ebay here(without the swasi coved up), I will get banned ! sad, but true. Then again, saying that, Here in switzerland the laws are very unlear about the Hakenkreuz, noone seem to know if it`s allowed or not? Of course it would`nt be a wise thing to hang a Swasi flag outside your door here, and you would probably get into trouble..but if it`s banned? see, Switzerland have there own crazy laws.. BUT, in Germany, Austria etc etc.. it is absolutly forbidden. |
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Switzerland
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@Homer1-National Sozialism- a chapter that the Central Europeans would like to forget, or brush under the carpet. What it represented 1919-1945 was Hitlers Germany, and everything that went with it! Sure you know the rest!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nein die meisten verstehen es nicht. Es ist gut mit jemandem zu reden. Ich will irgendwann nach die Switz reisen. Ich habe gehoert das es schoen ist. Ich habe ein Paar silber drite reich marken auf ebay gesehen. Leider habe Ich die nicht gekauft. |
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Switzerland
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@Graceoutcast-well, let me put it to you like this. I have a website in the US (for nazi military) and thats never been a problem. I also have one here in Switzerland, and in the begining I did`nt used to cover the swasi up, as I could`nt find a law in the Swiss Law book that specified I must. I used to get at least 1 email a week from anony.ppl saying stuff like "You nazi pig" etc...so I changed the whole concept of my site, and coved the swasi up...since then, that was about 2 years back... not 1 single bad mail :-)wether it is LAW that I must on my private web site...i dont know... but it suites me better when I do! Coins and the like, even stamps and banknotes from the period 1933-45 have to have the swasi covered up if you wanna sell them on ebay and the like. Did you know, that there is no way, that I (or germans) can access the military auctions on ebay.com? [period 1933-1945]If we click on them, a big notice appears that says "Due to the laws in your country, you are not allowed to view these auctions" did you know that? hard times.... |
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Switzerland
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@N-Giles. Ich habe circa je 500 stück 2 und 5 Silber Reichsmark münzen, und wenn du willst, kann ich dir was davon verkaufen :-) Ich glaube dass es event. besser ist, wenn du mit mir Deutsch reden willst, das du mir`n PM gibst :-) Nicht schön für die hier die nix verstehen :-( MfG
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Posted 02/17/2008 7:48 pm
