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New Large $20 Gold Certificate

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 Posted 04/15/2016  6:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just picked up this early-generation CGA note with the thin holder that shows paper wave quite well. Bright embossing.

Check out those reverse margins.


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 Posted 04/15/2016  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georgescoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice note! Very nice margins.
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 Posted 04/15/2016  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great note @Coinfrog.

Love these large size Gold Certs. This series 1922 $20 Gold Certificate has the same back as its famous "Technicolor" older brother from series 1905, with George facing the left instead of his right facing portrait we have come to love on our current one dollar bill. I also have several old style, thinner CGA holders with the labels made for them by the American Banknote Company.

Awesome note with tons of eye appeal, both front and back.
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 Posted 04/15/2016  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
super nice,clean note!! Love it.....my vf-30 sure don't have that clean paper..Our money now is ugly,isn't it?
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 Posted 04/15/2016  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CollectorKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coinfrog!
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 Posted 04/15/2016  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tbolts10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love it. I've been looking at picking up one of these myself.
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 Posted 04/16/2016  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. The note is actually quite bright, more so than in the pics. Not likely a PMG 67, I think, but certainly a 65+ if it has no evidence of handling, which I don't think it does. I've studied it extensively under a backlight.

I'm thinking of cutting it out.
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 Posted 04/16/2016  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georgescoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree not 67 but a nice note. I would cut it out and send to PMG or PCGS. I have a nice one that might grade AU or so that I want to send to PMG as well.
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 Posted 04/17/2016  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve (and everyone) - do show us some of your CGA notes. I've got a ton more I could contribute.
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 Posted 04/18/2016  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Timewise44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coinfrog,
Thanks for sharing that is one pretty note! Not sure I love that color orange, but the bill is really fine looking....at least to my untrained eyes..! Where in the world do you find items like this? And how do you decide on value? I know both answers are fairly extensive, so if you could only share the highlights...for a rookie...

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The pics are really terrible (I have a new computer, now with Windows 10, and am having problems getting the scans to set up properly). The color on this note is bright and fully typical of large-size gold notes, and is meant to be "orange" and not "yellow" like the seal and denomination on the obverse.

Truthfully, I buy notes on ebay, from on-line dealer sites, from auction firms like Heritage, and occasionally at shows. The price I pay basically reflects many, many years of buying and selling PM and having a sort-of built-in data base in my head to access when making a decision, if you know what I mean. All collectors (of anything) develop this ability over the years.

In short, there is no substitute for experience. My advice would be to collectors of any age starting in a new field: go to shows, scour ebay, check Heritage Auctions and its archives, and DON'T BUY until you have studied your subject carefully.

The adage used to be "Buy the Book Before the Coin." In the age of the internet, that could be updated to "Search Carefully Online Before Buying the Coin."
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 Posted 04/18/2016  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Timewise - here is another (bad) pic of a different large-size gold certificate reverse for color comparison.

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 Posted 04/18/2016  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CollectorKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 65 grade NA $1 I got today is in an older CGA holder.. Not sure if I like the holder or not..
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Hope you don't mind me posting, but here's another look at the reverse of these types.

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 Posted 04/18/2016  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have any CGA notes to post unfortunately. I've never been a fan of their holders.
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 Posted 04/19/2016  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CollectorKing - I am not terribly fond of the style of their holders, either, but I have found some great notes in them at prices well below comparable major TPG notes even adjusted for centering inflation - many of which I have resubmitted successfully. Buy the note before...etc. Show us your $1 NA please!

Wheat - Nice '07 GC. I love these Hilegas notes, probably because they closely resemble the mighty $1,000 Hamilton GC.
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