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What Is Going On With This Large Cent?

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 Posted 04/19/2016  2:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Earendil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone have any idea if this is an actual coin, a blank planchet someone hammered another Large Cent into, the results of some kind of "experiment"...?

Here are the main things I noticed about this "coin":

- The coin is slightly flattened, and thus wider than a normal Large Cent.

- The images on both sides of the "coin" are, as you can see, completely mirrored, yet not fully duplicated (as if an incomplete impression was made).

- Both sides of the "coin" are in the same orientation (I believe that would be "medal orientation")?

- All of the duplicated design elements are incuse, or sunken below the surface of the coin.

- There are no signs of doubling anywhere on the coin, which I assume would be the case if one Large Cent was hammered into another already-struck one.

- The weight of the "coin" is 10.89 grams (which leads me to believe this is, at least, a Large Cent planchet).

Thank you in advance for any assistance.


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It probably was a large cent at one time, that some one clearly hammered in another.

It looks like it was well worn and probably dug up after a LONG time in the ground.
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Probably put in a vise with another.
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Someone tried to make a brockage error. This is a damaged and altered "cull."
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 Posted 04/20/2016  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting piece, but certainly damaged.
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I don't see evidence of a regular strike anywhere so it is probably just a piece of copper (Possibly even a large cent planchet) that has bee squeezed between to large cents. It is not a mint error, just a post mint fabrication.
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I think that it is a failed attempt to make a brockage. This look no sense to me, at least for a piece was made at the first U.S. Mint. I don't think a "double brockage" on both sides was ever made at the first U.S. Mint.
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It probably was a large cent at one time, that some one clearly hammered in another.

It looks like it was well worn and probably dug up after a LONG time in the ground.


Thank you for looking at it. I thought it might have perhaps been a blank planchet that someone was "messing with" but it didn't occur to me that the host coin might have just been worn completely smooth.


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Probably put in a vise with another.


Yes, it does bear that particular "look"!


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Someone tried to make a brockage error. This is a damaged and altered "cull."


Thank you for looking at it. I actually came across brockage errors when I was researching general coin error variants, and they have a completely different "look" that this coin does. I guess the person who tampered with it only had a general idea of what they were trying to imitate! And fortunately I only paid 75 cents for it (I just thought it was an interesting conversation piece).


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I don't see evidence of a regular strike anywhere so it is probably just a piece of copper (Possibly even a large cent planchet) that has bee squeezed between to large cents. It is not a mint error, just a post mint fabrication.


Neither do I. If it was struck over another coin, I assume there would be at least some evidence of design doubling, but that is completely absent. However, I believe it may actually be a Large Cent planchet (a blank one, then), since it exactly matches the weight of a standard Large Cent.


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I think that it is a failed attempt to make a brockage. This look no sense to me, at least for a piece was made at the first U.S. Mint. I don't think a "double brockage" on both sides was ever made at the first U.S. Mint.


Thank you for looking at it. Its overall look is definitely rather odd, but that's why I originally picked it up; I simply thought it was interesting. It actually came out of a dealer's junk box.
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