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First "Barbaric" Celtic

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greek-Coin-...5005?txnId=0

I saw it and just fell in love with that portrait. Almost has a tribal African feel to it. The price was right, too!

Any ideas where to begin looking to attribute this one?
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maybe "Greek Coin Types and Their Identification" by Plant"? I just ordered my copy last week based on the discussion from another CCF thread.
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Kinda reminds me of the veiled woman obverse types (with tripod reverses) from Melita/Malta, such as:

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The obverse looks like the veiled head as the Constantine memorial issue, but the reverse doesn't match hat issue. I really can't say what the reverse image is.
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I am seeing this as the "obverse" with a crude portrait facing right, with hanging dreadlocks and pearls/beads in its hair.

I *know* I have seen something just like it before, but I cannot remember where!

IMO, this mystery is well worth $4.50 to solve
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I was thinking the same thing about that obverse portrait, Ron. I wonder if this influenced the design for the Constantinian memorial pieces.


I think the reverse is a musical instrument, specifically a Lyre. I would look at regions where the worship of Apollo was significant. Was there an Apollonia?
[ Just checked, there were a few. But if that obverse is a veiled female head and the reverse is a lyre, then I'm guessing that it is a reference to an oracle, possibly at Delphi? ]

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Perhaps you're right, Irbguy, and it's a lyre/kithara. Still, looks suspiciously like a tripod to me...like a variant of the Melita issue below. Hopefully someone pins it down for sure.

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I think that Melita coin takes it. Way more similarities in overall design than just the central tripod image, which also looks spot on.
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I think you guys are right--I guess this goes to demonstrate how the human mind tries to find human features even when none are present.

Not exactly as fun as a poorly engraved Celtic coin, but it still looks like I got a good deal.

Thanks to all!
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