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Help With Mexico (Republic) 8R Cap & Ray

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 Posted 05/07/2016  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah something different about that 1862 the feel weight in hand versus my other coins has slightly different feel like the weight is not even or something?


1896 MO AB Mexico 8 Reales

This 1896 MO AB Mexico 8 Reales was not pictured in Respladores book

weight:26.97 grams

Is a part of the "standardized" dies with two "dragon teeth"

I found reference to compare to here

It has several matching factors like has same thing going on the right eagles top wing has extra outline. Shape of the date and lettering


https://www.moderncoinmart.com/silv...GS-ms63.html
http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/M..._AB_8_reales

Every thing look good here but the the side or edge of the coin the pattern was odd in comparison to my others but my sample set of coins I own is small so maybe not to acture to judge against.

Is the Edge weird on the middle one?

the coin in question is the middle one an 1896 MO AB the other coin are only 1 year off 1897's

the dots are normal but part get slit has line and a split or 2 dots see image sorry it was hard to capture.

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Is the Edge weird on the middle one?


The edge is simply less worn than the others. The pattern is the same but you can see the components clearly.

The edge also shows some doubling - that would be the overlap. At the time the edger was steam driven and more than one blank was edged at one time. So many of the standardized die coins are found with multiple edges - after one full rotation (a double impression) it usually gets hard to make out the individual segments.

Regarding the "extra" out line on the wings that is also seen on many standard die impressions. I presume it was a milling line on the hub. This extra outline would not likely survive die lapping - so many older dies have no trace remaining even on MS examples.
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thanks for the information again swamperbob

I do some very basic data mining at work so I started doing some for my own reference for the series

I have been making some basic reference for fun in my spare time. I started to note including overdates and varieties not listed in Resplandores to print for myself as an add-on reference. It looks like it will almost over 1,200 pages when complete maybe I need to break up by mint.

I also made a list of assayers for all mints missing only 10% or less for whole series only a few hours in trying some machine learning to see if it can guess or figure out the missing ones.

I will add more info

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I am pretty sure all this information is already out there but for me its fun to gather it all up from scratch to learn it.

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