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This coin has one of the busiest reverses I have ever seen. I have compared it to just about every Normal date VAM as well as a bunch of others and this coin just doesn't seem to match any quite right. I do believe it may be a VAM 1 but has A lot of Clashing going on as well as die cracks. VAM 1 says there may be a lot of die cracks in later coins but doesn't mention the clashes so I am not willing to call it that until it get checked out here 1st. I don't believe it is a pitted die, although the E in the One on the reverse seems like it could be a little pitted, but nothing like pics. Please help. I have included a lot of pics and can take more if needed. I am having hard time getting die cracks to show up through the slab. Obverse Pics     Reverse Pics       Are pics good enough to VAM? What do you think it could be? Thanks for any and all help...Mont. Edited by MontCollector
04/23/2016 5:27 pm
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Reverse clash line up to the N is indicative of OBV letter transfer, but I don't see it in the photo. Do you? Also, what are you seeing in the photo of lower left REV (ONE D)? Have you looked at the reverse types to narrow it down more?
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There is a Diagonal line extending downward from neck under chin. You are right. The only VAMS I can find with the Clash line on reverse does indicate an small clashed n on the obverse, but I am not seeing this at all. Have compared with all Normal date Clashed n reverses and none of the die cracks match up. Quote:
Also, what are you seeing in the photo of lower left REV (ONE D)? There is a die crack that extends from the O(just below center)in One left to the star point and then comes out other side of star and extends left to just above U in United. There is also a pretty bold clash on left reverse upper wreath see pics. Edited by MontCollector
04/23/2016 9:33 pm
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Possibly VAM-9 die 3 (9.3). Hard to tell from photos what doubling is or is not there... date position looks slightly slanted with 1 higher than 5 (similar to VAM-36), but not as dramatic. VAM-9.3 also shows this.
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Well ignore that thought... your coin is a normal date, not far. I should have caught that much sooner. I will take a closer look tomorrow or sometime when I have more time. I was just trying to lead you down the right path is all..
Good luck in the meantime!
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Ty I was just gonna say this is a normal date. So VAM 9 is out. |
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Sorry, just popping I for a second because I don't have much time to help right now, but have you determined the reverse type? That may narrow things down quite a bit.
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the reverse types are listed by date placement I believe it is a C3a Normal date revers type.
There is no dash under 8 in date and cant locate "N" near neck.
There is the indicative "N" clash on reverse as well as 3 other clash marks. The left Olive branch ha 2 of the clashes and a little "bump" coming off one leaf near top of branch The right olive branch has common clash I see in some O minted Morgans.
Die Breaks.
Obverse- None I can see
Reverse: 1st: Starting in leaf tip above 2nd L in Dollar extending right ending in olive leaf just above the R.
2nd: Starts on tip of olive leaf on right side top of branch leaf closet to right extends through wing ending at crossbar of last T in Trust
3rd: starts on right tip of U in trust ending just below 2nd S in States.
4th: Staring I'm Middle of D in United extending across wing through top left of I and ending just below T in States.
5th: Starts in O if ONE extends left to 1st star tip coming out other side of star and ending just above the U in united.
Hope this helps out some.
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04/24/2016 7:04 pm
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Have a look at 24A and 25A, but use the 25B listing for overall full coin plates. One last suggestion - VAM1G. Seems to be some evil mimics in the normal date n clash category.
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04/24/2016 7:51 pm
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Could be 24A. Here is a close up of her eye. I have a hard time seeing some of the marks the site is trying to show us in the pics.  Amazing what shows up on a pic that I cant see with my loop. I really need a USB Microscope I guess. |
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Ty for all your help guys. I am going to call it VAM-1G.
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