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Hello. I need some help. A seller has recently offered to sell me this coin. I am told the Arabic says something along the lines of "beaten in Tripoli in 1223" but the same seller also claims this coin to be over 700 years old. Which based on my rudimentary understanding of the Arabic calendar this would seem to not make any sense. As I believe 1223 would translate into a Gregorian date of about 1808. Which fits the timeframe of the Barbary Wars but again nowhere near 700 years old. Then there is perhaps the ancient County of Tripoli (1109-1289). I assume here the seller translated the date into the Gregorian date. The Country of Tripoli did border the Kingdom of Jerusalem in about what is now modern day Lebanon. I can't find any wars which occurred between those two countries around 1223 but maybe "beaten" is in the context of "struck" or "minted" and doesn't actually mean a literal conquest? Also the Star of David (if that what it is I do not know if in ancient times any other civilizations also used this type of star) on the reverse mixed with Turk / Ottoman styles I admit seems quite interesting. Does anyone have any idea as to this coin's identity? Civilization? Is it a fake? Any info or direction would be must appreciated. Ps. Sorry for the images I did not take these pictures. I did try to enhance them the best I could to bring out the details.   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Pillar of the Community
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With that Seal of Solomon (the more proper term here than Star of David), it might be Moroccan. Unfortunately I don't have the time to research now.
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I agree on the date being AH 1223, which does correspond to AD 1808.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Edited by Kamnaskires
04/25/2016 12:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I believe it's a falus (sp) of Morocco. That location had a heavy Jewish population
in the 19 century.
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@Bob L you are amazing. !! Also sorry for my ignorance on the name of the star. Very interesting.
@spence Thank you for confirming my translation was correct.
@fioti Thank you.
So the translate of "beaten" would you all think would better mean "minted"?
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KM#115 in Krause, under Libya.
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@andyg  Awesome! Thank you all! |
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So the translate of "beaten" would you all think would better mean "minted"? Perhaps "struck" is the best english word to use in your translation of the obv inscription. It certainly does not mean beaten in the sense that a battle was fought and subsequently won. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Which fits the timeframe of the Barbary Wars I bet there are some Marines who would like to have a coin struck at Tripoli from that time period. From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli. |
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