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Posted 05/12/2016 12:34 pm
OK. One more time. The Law is black and white. It is peoples interpretation which muddies the water. gaz you are wrong on what remains legal tender. NO BOOK can tell you what is legal tender except a copy of the Criminal Code of Canada. The RCNA rules of display are wrong as currently written. I am sure this will be corrected. The ONA rules on counterfeits as they are written are TOTALLY WRONG.
Read the law. The most important line states the onus of proof is on the individual that they educate to possess/import counterfeits. Not the crown. That means you openly TEACH others to identify the counterfeits through published works, seminars and the dissemination of information.
I carry (and have earned) a letter from the RCMP stating that I do just that. I also have a letter from the RCNA stating my qualifications in regards to counterfeit Canadian coins coming from China and that I do indeed educate on them. I have had to produce them numerous times. Those are the prerequisites the RCNA dictates in the policy. BLACK AND WHITE! The excuse that the counterfeits were purchased to educate yourself will not fulfill the requirements needed by law.
It drives me nuts that very few people realize the ramifications of the fakes in a collection. Here is one example.
A coin collector dies. In the collection is a handful of counterfeit 50 cent pieces from China he/she purchased to educate themselves. Family liquidates entire collection. The cycle begins again as now someone else owns the fakes. Perhaps a neophyte collector. Perhaps an unscrupulous seller? Either way someone has potential to be defrauded! I have seen the results of both scenario's. TOO #$%^^^%% often. All because individuals did not understand the big picture. As for stamping them? I have seen a 1921 5 cents made in 1968/9 in Israel that was struck with the word copy. It was tumbled in a ceramic polisher until G6. Low and behold the worthless fake sold for 4K. I had to tell the owner it was fake! The law works when people look at the big picture and use their heads for something other than hat racks. IT AFFECTS MORE THAN JUST THE INDIVIDUAL!
Read the law. The most important line states the onus of proof is on the individual that they educate to possess/import counterfeits. Not the crown. That means you openly TEACH others to identify the counterfeits through published works, seminars and the dissemination of information.
I carry (and have earned) a letter from the RCMP stating that I do just that. I also have a letter from the RCNA stating my qualifications in regards to counterfeit Canadian coins coming from China and that I do indeed educate on them. I have had to produce them numerous times. Those are the prerequisites the RCNA dictates in the policy. BLACK AND WHITE! The excuse that the counterfeits were purchased to educate yourself will not fulfill the requirements needed by law.
It drives me nuts that very few people realize the ramifications of the fakes in a collection. Here is one example.
A coin collector dies. In the collection is a handful of counterfeit 50 cent pieces from China he/she purchased to educate themselves. Family liquidates entire collection. The cycle begins again as now someone else owns the fakes. Perhaps a neophyte collector. Perhaps an unscrupulous seller? Either way someone has potential to be defrauded! I have seen the results of both scenario's. TOO #$%^^^%% often. All because individuals did not understand the big picture. As for stamping them? I have seen a 1921 5 cents made in 1968/9 in Israel that was struck with the word copy. It was tumbled in a ceramic polisher until G6. Low and behold the worthless fake sold for 4K. I had to tell the owner it was fake! The law works when people look at the big picture and use their heads for something other than hat racks. IT AFFECTS MORE THAN JUST THE INDIVIDUAL!
