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Looks like the obverse is tilted.From IGWT up to the middle of Liberty,there is just a thin section of reeding on this part of the coin. On the reverse,it appears to have some ghosting going on. As always,comments and thoughts are welcome.    |
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Question:Would the reverse be ghosting or a die clash? John1  Edited by John1
05/06/2016 3:03 pm
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You can tell that this coin was struck by a worn die. Metal flow is present clearly on the obverse. The reverse markings could be an error but it's hard to say due to how subtle it is and the badly worn die. You mentioned the reed at LIBERTY. Are you referring to a partial collar? If so that's certainly and error if everything checks out alright. This could also be a PMD issue so I'd just compare your reeding with other error examples. |
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I see a very worn die. I think the ghosting you see is from indirect die transfer (a result of extreme die wear). The reeding appears normal and I see no indication of a partial collar from your photos. The issue on the left side of your coin is on the rim and is slight finning. The inner part of the rim is the design rim on the die and the higher outer part of the rim is the fin from metal flowing up between the hammer and anvil dies and the collar. This is caused by extra pressure in this area. The extra pressure could be caused by a tilted die as you said or also by a tapered planchet.
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John1:Question:Would the reverse by ghosting or a die clash? Dunno,does ghosting raise the image or indent it into the coin?I don't think it is clashed,if it is,it must be an old one.It does appear that it is incuse in the shape of the head.? Quote:Mx888w:You mentioned the reed at LIBERTY. Are you referring to a partial collar? If so that's certainly and error if everything checks out alright. This could also be a PMD issue so I'd just compare your reeding with other error examples. I don't know exactly what you call it,but,it's like the metal didn't flow completely out to "fill" the reed collar.Only the very center of the rounded edge is flat/squared off,with reeding.And not due too wear or PSD.That I can tell you,because,I can see where the metal is pushed out,to the side (obverse,reverse)at the bottom of the "V" in the reeding groove.Just like a normal coin has. I'll try and get some pictures of it.If I can that is.  200 posts.Another few months and I'll be able to sell a coin here.  Edited by Cross-eyed
05/06/2016 09:32 am
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There's an extreme VLDS for you. Also, I think that's not ghosting. I think that it's an actual clash, albeit common in that area.
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It very well could be,I'm no expert in the matter.  |
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I agree with CoinCollector2000 that it is VLDS and no ghosting, just some remaining die clash marks. If you note on the EPU the PLU almost show the 'L' almost gone, so I think they figured to put it back to work again and strike a few more coins. We often hear a lot about die states and thought I would share a few images of a 1972-D (which I researched for this thread0 to show the difference between an earlier die state and a later die state coin with images side by side:    |
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Cool graphics coop! Mine makes that late die state one look good. Thanks for all You hard work!It makes learning easy and fun.  |
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While this dime is not in great shape, I do see the tell tale signs of a clash. With Roosevelts the reverse where the LU of E.Pluribus shows the clash from the obverse of Roosevelt's face is probably the easiest clashed coin (for me) to spot. Here's some pics by Jason Cuvelier from maddieclashes.  When I'm using my loupe on dimes I always start with the reverse looking for the signs of a clash. Probably 30% of the time that I find one, the obverse has signs too. The mint seems to have a hard time removing signs of the clash on the reverse or maybe they just don't care. I started filling a second 35mm film container with clashed dimes I found just this year alone. If you look at the right side of the reverse, between the oak leaf and AMERICA, you can see the back of Roosevelt's head. I think I see the N from IN GOD... between the S and T in STATES but the state of the coin is just not good enough to say that for sure. Thanks to people like you Cross-eyed, who post these pics and Professor COOP's running commentaries, I'm getting a little better at this hobby. Now if I can only find a DDO 1969-S Lincoln Cent |
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I have been personally collecting, and examining modern coins & errors since 2006. That by no means makes me an expert, but I believe your dime was was struck over a 1957 canadian penny.
If you examine the photo of the obverse closely. The C of Canada can be seen just above the 1972 and mintmark. The rest of the word follows the edge. With the d being almost level with roosevelt's earlobe.
Assuming the location of the word Canada is the bottom of the coin. Then the lines seen going through Roosevelt's neck would be part of the date. I see the date stamped as 1957. With the number 7 going through roosevelt's earlobe.
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This is a clad coin. Not a copper colored cent? Just a VLDS die example. (extreme die wear issue)
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You are responding to a post that is nearly 5 years old! Quote:
I believe your dime was was struck over a 1957 canadian penny. No way, not physically possible. Different country, very different mints, way different EVERYTHING!  |
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