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Strike Through Or Scratch --> Mountie Quarter

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I lost/misplaced my loupe ...

Posted this Mountie Quarter in the Circulation Finds
thread and the line on the coin was intriguing. Here is
the coin. If it was a strike through wire, would the
wire be visible on the nose of the horse. It is in the
field on either side and runs through a rim bead at the
bottom as well as the rim on the right. An incused line
exists in a curve that does not look like a scratch, but
my eyes are not that good and my magnifier pathetic.
Here are some macro shots.

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I am going to say scratch.
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Cant really tell if the scratch/strike through runs across the horse.
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scratch, you can see whatever scratched it went over the horse and hit the field again because there is a small area above the horse and under the scratch where it couldnt reach in to the small edge of the devices.

hope that makes sense...im bad at explaining things and am still half asleep.
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Yes, it does thanks. Here is a closer look, should have
done this originally, learning. Gap between nose and line.

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I agree, the scratch stops just short of the noseband and continues again below the bit-ring/rein ends.
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A scratch would continue over the top of the design .. it would, in fact, be deeper over the horse. I'd say a thin sliver of metal on the working die that the hub struck into the working die ... the hub cutting the sliver so that it remained full in the fields.
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i think what scratched it went over lightly and kind of hopped along when going over the devices since it was an irregular bumpy surface..i dont think it was something on the die...you can see it may have been a staple or something, look how it scratches around the 9, if it was a die problem it would go through the 9 but since it was something scratching the coin and the 9 is raised, it took the easiest way around it.
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I'm not looking at the 9 ... I'm looking at the horses nose and then down. A problem on the surface of the die would do nothing to the design .. a scratch would go right through the design. A scratch doesn't take "the easiest way around".
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like I said, I'm not great at explaining things. when I look at this coin, I can see the way I believe it was scratched. until I can find a better way to word myself I will take a step back and see what others have to say
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Some closer shots may help.

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Did you say that they were incuse or raised?
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It is not raised like a die crack, it is an incused
line/rut/divot in the field.
Just looking at the last picture, a scratch would have
grooves inside in the direction of the line I would think.
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Me thinks higher magnification will be needed here.
SilverDon I agree . Grooves would/should be present.
In those pics I can't tell.
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In my opinion based on the pics I think its a scratch.
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In the last, more magnetized photo, I can see that the line DOES scratch through the bead. The only reason that I got into this discussion in the first place was when someone said that it was a scratch because the line ended at the design and then continued on the other side when just the opposite reasoning should be true. Based on the last pic, I will say that it's a scratch, as well. Maybe there's a scratch through the horse's nose as well but the design hides it.
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