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ICG As A Grading Service

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 Posted 05/16/2016  9:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add grumpy56 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What is your opinion of ICG as a grading service? I do not own any coins graded by them, but I've seen some with coins that look decent and the price is usually less than PCGS or NGC.
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 Posted 05/16/2016  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't take their grading at face value...but buy the coin not the holder in this case.
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I've seen some horrible overgrades. I own one of them. The holder adds no value. If you'd be ok cracking it out, then buy the coin
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 Posted 05/16/2016  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a couple of coins in ICG slabs. I bought the coin and not the holder. Also, I paid less than I would have if the coin was in a PCGS slab. IMO nothing wrong with them as long as you are careful.
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 Posted 05/16/2016  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They aren't NGC or PCGS but they aren't as bad as segs ncg and other basement graders. I primarily keep a rule to buy only NGC or PCGS slabs for my certified collection. Gonna start a NGC registry set tomorrow after work, especially for my complete set of Franklin halves.
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ICG has some qualities - they are the only ones who will encapsulate contemporary counterfeit coins (in their 'educational' slab with a bright yellow label).

They are also fairly notorious as standing for "I Can't Grade". I've bought from dealers who cracked out of ICG slabs because it was too embarrassing to try to sell it as is. One in particular came out of ICG AU-55 and into NGC XF-40 (and it's an honest 40).

I believe they will attribute more and minor varieties that PCGS and NGC do not.
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 Posted 05/17/2016  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PAC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They generally aren't horrible, but I definitely wouldn't buy them sight unseen (not that I really recommend that period). I'd only recommend it if you're comfortable grading the coin in question.
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I wouldn't take their grading at face value...but buy the coin not the holder in this case.
In any case,not just this one. Even the top three TPG's can and have graded wrong. If you learn to grade then a true MS-60 will be a MS-60 in any slab.
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 Posted 05/17/2016  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rycolemet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I use ICG to grade many of my coins in the $75-$200 value range since I live near them in Tampa (no shipping expense). Their grades, at least recently with the blue labels, have been relatively accurate in my opinion. For high-end coins and especially Moderns, you are better off with PCGS/NGC but you should consider ICG classic coins if you like the coin and think it is graded correctly.
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I don't have any problem with ICG. I do like to see the coin in hand before I'm locked into it. I'm the same with the other TPGs.
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Appreciate all the comments.
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Agree with others - they aren't an outright scam like the basement slabbers but you will get much more reliable grading from the new ANACS holders, PCGS, or NGC. Note that PCGS and NGC have suffered quite a bit from "grade inflation" so I dare say the modern ANACS holders are actually more accurately graded. Don't shoot the messenger!
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 Posted 05/24/2016  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, reading back over my comment I forgot to note that I have several mid-priced ICG slabbed coins that ARE accurately graded, and I'm quite comfortable keeping them as is.
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Just remember that as with most products you pay for the name. More so than the product, just the name. Places like PCGS are so famous, you just have to pay for that.
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