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Valued Member
United States
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Just got this 1880 Proof IHC today. It was in a very old flip, probably for a long time - the staples had rust, and the writing is faded (I even smelled the flip, it has a faint bouquet of 'grandparent's basement'). I want to send it in to PCGS. I included some axial lighting pics.     How do think this will grade? -Thanks! Edited by mamastinky
05/26/2016 9:36 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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MAMA , If your going to send it in I would have some kind of conservation done to it . I see a lot of green spots . real nice piece , PR-63 ? And gorgeous reverse toning .
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Valued Member
 United States
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Yeah, I worried about the same thing.. all the green you see near the rims actually is highly reflective lime green at the right angle. You are right, though, since it just today left the cozy environment of the inside of that flip for the first time since.. ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm guessing it would get a Questionable Color designation at PCGS, could be an old cleaning as well.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'd say pr64, not sure on the surfaces,beautiful color but tough to say if some of the green is the beginning of corrosion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The first thing I saw was the green stuff. I would have stayed away unless the price was spectacular.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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PR-64, maybe 64.
I'd use the PCGS conservation services, as you might have some PVC damage on your coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PR-63 or so. The green spot on the obverse is a bit worrisome - might knock it down to a details grade if corrosion.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks for your input, everyone. Quote:
I'm guessing it would get a Questionable Color designation at PCGS, could be an old cleaning as well. Canadian-Banknotes, I worried about the possibility of that color designation, too, in spite of the fact that this did happen over the course of many years. I don't really like the toning too much. However, it definitely has not been cleaned - I see what appears to be die scratches in the fields, but they follow through behind the legends, and there are no scratches on any of the raised surfaces. This coin came in a flip, and it looks like it got wet a long time ago. My guess is, the flip is likely the older type that used to contain sulfur, and was in a box in a basement somewhere where the bottom of the box got wet and just left there. There is a large crater on Liberty's neck which appears to be a planchet error, so that will affect the grade. I was under the impression, however, that the green must not be what one would first think it is if the green areas are in fact reflective; there is no signs of verdigris at ALL. I have a better camera coming in the mail. I think it might be easier to grade with sharper photos - for me, at least. Thanks! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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To me, it looks like it may have been altered at some point. Tell us about the mirrors, which are not apparent here.
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United States
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Yea... I think the coin was cleaned some point in its history.
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