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2008 Monroe Clip?

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Thoughts on this Monroe Dollar-P it looks like a partial clip what do you think? I know it isn't very big but it looks like it to me.
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coin hit.
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no clip, just a rim ding
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Sure looks to me like whatever it is, happened before the edger.
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Thanks for the replies
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Doesn't look like a standard post-mint-damage rim hit to me, simply because I would expect more compromise in the lettering.
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If the lettering continues onto the area that looks like a clip but probably isn't, then the rim was hit after the lettering was applied. If that was a mini clip, the edge lettering would have missed that spot.

In the picture, the lettering looks like it is on that little area, indicating a rim ding.
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It appears to me from the two-tone coloration within the "R" and the relative narrowness of the legs of the "R" that the lettering was applied on the coin after whatever happened to the coin happened. I'm still not convinced this is post-mint damage.
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The blanking press runs straight through the strip of metal to make blanks. If the press punches too closely you get a clip. Clips cannot be at angles other than perfectly perpendicular to the surfaces of the coin - end of story.

The coin in question has lettering inside the supposed clip area - impossible if this were a real clip. If the planchet was clipped, that area would have no lettering - just like Bill said.

This coin was hit hard by something after it was minted. There's no other explanation for a coin that has a flattened area on the edge that shows it was obviously done after the edge lettering was placed on the coin. Anyone who argues this doesn't understand the process that made the coin. Anyone who understands the basic principles of the minting process can see this is obviously damage applied to the coin after it was minted. No sugar coating here, just stating a simple undeniable fact.
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The blanking press runs straight through the strip of metal to make blanks. If the press punches too closely you get a clip. Clips cannot be at angles other than perfectly perpendicular to the surfaces of the coin - end of story.


Very good point. That reminds me of what I've seen of the minting process, where the planchet metal runs off a huge roll into a slot on the blanking press. Obviously there's no way that sheet of metal could be angled in that slot.
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I never thought about the minting process and your right the part of the letter should be missing.
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