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My 1909-? Lincoln Cent

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I've stared pretty hard at it and I am pretty sure I see 09 as the last two date digits. I've played around with the lighting, angles, etc. The problem the is coral-like green hard very dry powdery element that has filled in the fields as well as almost the entire obverse making the coin somewhat flat (so I can't confirm reverse VDB). The date is inset in relation to the coral-like element because of this. So, what do I do? I sure would like to know if there is a mint-mark and confirm the date. Suggestions?

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Sorry to say I think this one is too far gone. I just don't see any scenario where you can turn this into anything worthwhile.
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I can barely even tell that's Lincoln on there
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Very hard to say and I really hope Its not a 1909
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Bad case of Fungus-among-us . Looks like it came up from the Titanic .
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I'd be interested to know why the moss-like verdigris seems so flat across, as if a razor blade was used to shave across the rims. Or is this natural? Is the reverse of the coin similar?
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Thanks, everyone. Is there no way to remove some of the green without destroying the metal further? I have put a box around the 9:

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I'd be interested to know why the moss-like verdigris seems so flat across, as if a razor blade was used to shave across the rims. Or is this natural? Is the reverse of the coin similar?


Yes, it is flat across. I found the coin in a machine-wrapped roll, and I wonder if the mechanical process flattened it out. My guess is that the flatness is not natural. When I opened the roll there was a bit of powder. The reverse is similar. I need to retake the reverse photo, as it came out blurry. I thought I saw V. D. B. on it, but my mind is probably playing tricks on me.

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Looks like it came up from the Titanic


I agree!
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Have you soaked the coin in some warm soapy water to see if any of the green rust comes off?
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I agree with the soapy water. Nothing to loose.
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Have you soaked the coin in some warm soapy water to see if any of the green rust comes off?


I used hot water yesterday (and felt quite guilty about it, with fear of harming the coin.) So, I'm caught between interest in knowing what it is and violating the "don't clean coins" rule.

Right now interest is outweighing caution. I used a toothpick on the reverse a few minutes ago, and scraped some of it away to test if the raised metal lettering survives in some way. So far, it looks promising, but I worry about scraping away the remaining evidence of the date if I tried the method on the obverse:

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I only have a one-cent investment in all of this, but the possibility of a lifetime find gives me pause!
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You could try soaking it in Verdi-Care for a day or two... maybe some details will appear.
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Whoa, I think that's the most corrosion I've ever seen on a Lincoln. This coin is a goner, I wouldn't spend any time on it personally....into the junk pile.
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An olive oil soak for a few days could help.
A gentle cleaning is your best option if indeed there even IS one...
Might as well clean it since it's details are not discernable at all like this.
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I used hot water yesterday (and felt quite guilty about it, with fear of harming the coin.)

I don't think you can harm it any further .
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aristarchus123, Note this is my thoughts only and in no way recommended on any valuable coin(s).

Two techniques I've heard of, but not tried myself, but would try if I had a crusty coin such as this.

Have seen on the Internet crusty coins put in the freezer one or two days and then removed. The metal expanding and retracting seemed to help free up some of the crust in some cases without scrubbing or picking as much.

Do your research and decide for yourself.

I've been curious if the Internet would lie to me again. I would place in a freezer bag if I did try and see if it helped. The second option I would apply only if the first option had no effect. I'll save that for another day. Thanks, Doug.

PS: Note my goal would only be to see if it would be something of value or not. If so then stop and leave to a professional service. I think value is not an issue in this case, but you never know.
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