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Newbie Question Re Mysterious Letters And Numbers Describing Ancient Coins

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Since I don't know what these are even called, I haven't been able to look them up. Anyway, I've recently become interested in ancient coins, and have noticed that often when one is offered for sale online there are a bunch of letters and numbers that seem to be some sort of descriptors. For example, I just bought my first ancient coin, a Mark Antony legionary denarius (or would that be denarivs?) and the tag that came with it said:

"Crawford 544/27; RSC I 42; CRI 367"

What the heck does that mean, and can anybody point me to an online article about the subject?

Many thanks!

BTW, here are pics of the coin. It's from Legio XIII, believed to contain some veterans from Julius Cæsar's Legio XIII that crossed the Rubicon with him. There was also a Legion XIII that Octavian called up that also included remnants of Julius Cæsar's Legio XIII. Both Legio XIIIs were on opposite sides at the Battle of Actium.



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@drk1, welcome to CCF! I'm going to recommend that this gets moved over to the ancients area as this question may be better answered there. We'll see what the mods decide.

However, I can also get things started. The coin has been listed in multiple books and each of these terms refers to the book and the particular number attribution.
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Nice coin to start with, though heavily faked so a bit risky (yours looks OK though) and a type that I recently added... not cheap in nice condition and well centred, I settled with something that wasn't too bad to look at but not such big bucks.

As spence says those letters and numbers each refer to books and number attribution. These books are large and expensive, so not everyone owns them but some of the information can be found online (sites such as wildwinds.com)
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Your coin from Marc Anthony legionary series is a nice start for a collection of ancient coins.

To answer your question. Those are reference works where you can find information about your coin they. Here is a link to Crawford online. http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/crawford1.html

RSC I= Roman Silver Coinage volume 1 and the CRI is Coinage of the Roman Imperators by David Sear.
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Thank you very much, one and all.

Yes, I've already been burned by a bogus one of these on ebay that I sent back. This one came from a reputable dealer. A bit more expensive, but still a good price and worth it.
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Drk1, welcome.

Numiswiki is a great source of info on all sorts of ancient coins-related stuff: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/nu...iki/view.asp

Just type in whatever term - or letters - you're looking for in the search box at left, or click on the first letter in the "Index of All Numiswiki articles" and then scan through terms that start with that letter.

Here's an excerpt that may be helpful, from Wayne Sayles' "Ancient Coin Collecting" book:

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