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Advice Needed On An 1882-H High Grade Silver Quarter

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 Posted 06/05/2016  3:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought this on a while back and was wondering what grade it might be (SP or MS) etc as well as the question of cleaning & ICCS, specifically how many grades lower would they grade it and what would be the value loss once graded. It has a purple-brown toning to it as you can see in the photos.

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 Posted 06/05/2016  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin.
But neither MS nor SP, AU at best.
We'll need better pics to give a number, those are so tiny.
Cleaning does not affect the grade whatsoever.
ICCS notes "cleaned" on the cert if they deem it to be so.
"cleaned" will knock 25-50% or more from the price depending on remaining eye appeal.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Just added some close-ups.
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 Posted 06/05/2016  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you've got a specimen there.
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Some like toning, some don't.
In this case, heavy patination has destroyed all of the cartwheel mint lustre.
Nevertheless, cleaning the toning off will reduce the value.


I would not take the risk to remove the patination.
Patination such as this can help preserve the metal underneath. This is one of the reasons why ancient coins (especially bronze and copper), have survived as long as they have.

With patination, some of the surface metal has been converted into metal sulfides or oxides, or a combination of both. To remove the patination is to remove some of the converted surface metal.
Patination is, after all, a form of corrosion.

For those of us who wish to preserve cartwheel lustre, put the coin in an acrylic screw capsule, or have it slabbed.

We all get old, so do coins. Coins are a bit more durable than us.
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I guess I'll send it to ICCS to get the Official final word on this piece. Maybe I'll get a nice surprise...
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At a distance that 82 looks really nice...the reverse is so flat ..)

..but a closer look show a lot of white "something" in the obverse letters..and many other places also.....old sliver polish perhaps..? ( look at the A of Gratia,..or the E of Regina..)

ICCS will leave that white in the coin and package it like that,... and it could eat away at the coin perhaps..

Anybody here know how to remove that crap without rubbing the coin..?..

..(maybe soaking it in a warm solution and followed by a soft toothbrush application is in order here..?)..my 2 c..


..and then send it off for grading...
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toothpick?
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I wouldn't consider cleaning or altering the coins surface at all. My opinion is it's a specimen, with even toning, it shouldn't have anything done to it, just have it graded
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I considered playing around with the white stuff in the lettering but trying to find something that small means you have to go with something very pointed and one wrong slip...lol But maybe a bath. I was also thinking acetone which is supposed to be neutral but I have know idea how it would affect the even toning. Anyone here ever tried acetone on toned coins..? Result ?
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Just took a look under a 40x mag. glass. And the whitish looking stuff is not stuff. It's the silver coin around almost every sharp contour. Looks like the toning only went up to but did not climb. Sort of like what you get if you spray painted something from directly above where the sides wouldn't be touched.
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