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Ancient Chinese Knife Coin For Cheap On Ebay

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/28206142019...RK:MEBIDX:IT

I saw this lot and thought about bidding on it. I bought some stuff and can no longer justify adding this to my collection as I don't need it. I know the knife coin is genuine, but I am not sure about the spade coin without a better picture of the obverse. Seller hasn't responded with better pics, so I'm going to assume it is fake. Everything else is fake.

The knife coin itself is worth $30 or so. As the auction sits, it is half that price.

The spade appears to be of the An Yang type (seems to be the most common), but I am unsure of authenticity.
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Silly question perhaps, but if everything else is fake, why do you think that the knife is real?

I agree that the spade seems dubious, and the others are some fantasy items.

But "a man is known by the company he keeps" and I am suspicious of anything travelling with a group of fakes/ fantasies.
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Silly question perhaps, but if everything else is fake, why do you think that the knife is real?

I agree that the spade seems dubious, and the others are some fantasy items.

But "a man is known by the company he keeps" and I am suspicious of anything travelling with a group of fakes/ fantasies.


The style is correct, as in it is thin, the rims and characters are sharp and thin. The patina looks like that of genuine coins, and the knife is bent. There is also a casting sprue present, which I have yet to see on a fake specimen, but I see them often on genuine coins. I have seen dozens of fake Ming knives on ebay (curiously I can't find any from the last 90 days), and this does not look like them.
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Thanks for the heads up!

I thought about bidding on it and giving the fake stuff to my daughter to play with, but then I saw what was on those "cash" coins....



Actually, not saying they are genuine, but weren't such tokens made recently enough (1800s) that they may not necessarily have a patina?
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06/13/2016 09:56 am
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I thought about bidding on it and giving the fake stuff to my daughter to play with, but then I saw what was on those "cash" coins....





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Actually, not saying they are genuine, but weren't such tokens made recently enough (1800s) that they may not necessarily have a patina?


They are fantasy charms. I don't think they have any value. The patina isn't the thing that gets me on these coins; it is the character style and overall fabric of the coins.
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