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Washington Quarter Roll Finds

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 Posted 06/18/2016  11:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Gary W to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am much more of LWC,Ihc, fan myself, but I find myself enjoying looking through all coins really. Here lately I have been putting together a small collection for my son of the State Quarters with all of there errors. In doing so I found a couple odd coins in these rolls and wanted to share to see if I had them right.


The first couple are a lamination error I believe.
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The second couple I though to be an off center
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This one I thought to be most interesting I'm not positive but. I believe this one is a double strike
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 Posted 06/18/2016  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first coin has something on the coin. Maybe glue, ick or something that happened during circulation.

The 1994 is a MAD coin. A spendable one.

The last coin looks like it was altered on the surface of the coin. (damaged)

All are spendable.
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 Posted 06/18/2016  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary W to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey thank you coop. All three of these coins I was very unsure of. The third one I most inquisitive about though. Both the obverse and the reverse looked like it has been stamped twice going counter clockwise when looking at the coin through a loop you can see an extra LI from liberty and UN on the reverse is very bold in the collar as you seen in the photo. All the photos that I have seen before have had a full 2nd image in it. This coin is pretty flattened out though so I thought maybe this is another error so I wanted to share it qith you guys. The most important bit of knowledge I have. is to know, that I know nothing. Lol thats why I'm here. Thanks Qgain Coop.
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 Posted 06/18/2016  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like to give a detailed answer so the next time you find a coin like the ones you've found, then you will remember what it is. If I just gave yes or no answers, the training of our brains does not happen. Kind of like that saying: "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he will feed his family for a life time."
1. I like to help us think about what we find.
2. Why I gave my answer.
3. train the memory to remember the answer when it comes up again.
That is a lot better than a yes or no answer. Also images I use helps us because you can right click them and save them for further study on your computer. Some use them to answer others questions as well. So it is a win, win situation.

Going back to your last coin.

First question: does if have the reeds on the edge of the coin? If it does it is a damaged coin. If it is missing these it maybe an error coin. If the reeds are weak to non existent, they may have been altered or worn off though use by perhaps a casino use coin.
Second question: Is the rim present on both sides of the coin. If there is that rim on just certain areas of the coin, it was probably removed or flattened after the strike occurred. If there is no evidence on both sides of the coin, then it might be an error coin.
Third question: Does the coin have indented areas of the coin. If so that is usually the indication the coin was damaged/altered after the strike happened. Coins can be sanded and altered to make it look like it wasn't there. If so then the coin will be lighter in weight. Coin damage can be incuse marks or weakened devices that were there at one time. Hope this helps.

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 Posted 06/29/2016  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary W to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey coop. Sorry I am just now seeing this. The coin weight is 5.58 g. The coin does show a rim in two areas both reverse and obverse. and the reeds on this coin ar still there though very worn in some areas almost as if you were looking at reeds of a circulated 65 and older. I appreciate greatly the detailed answers and yes you are very right there has been many times where I come back to those answers for current questions. I'm a firm believer in the fish theory myself. I try to live life through quotes of great men much smarter then myself. Its almost calming to do so. Lol. I have been upper management of some real monopolies of industry for a good part of my working life. For all the politics that came with it, And now I'm a foreman at a small town Iron foundry coming home enjoying my family and a new hobby. couldnt be happier. I have been wanting to ask you guys and you specifically coop. You are the one there to help me with the most knowledgeable answers. How long have you been in numismatics. I ask because of the ammount of knowledge that you have obtained, and continue to share. I have learned a tremendous amount in such a short period. Yet I really dont know a bit compared to you all. Well This is a long enough message for you So Thank you again coop.. I have learned a great deal from you specifically and look forward to learning more. Have a good night.
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Gary, I am with you coop is amazing and so generous with his knowledge and eduction that he provides to us. The stuff he knows is just incredible.
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All hail the almighty coop. But seriously, thanks for sharing all of your knowledge with the members of this forum. Almost at 20k!
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I started collecting coins as a kid. In the 1950's-60's era, there were a lot of coins that would be found in circulation change. So I started a coin book trying to fill my blue Whitman books. If we know then what we know now, silver coins would have never left out hands. It was nothing to find the classics back then in circulation. Standing Liberty quarters, Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels, Silver dollars. But they were just normal coinage then. As a kid, you couldn't save a lot of that.

But I grew tired of coins and sold off the silver coins and bought a set of drums and played guitar and later started to raise a family. (gone then are times collecting coins. money was needed to make ends meet) So after the kids were grown and grand kids were appearing, I got back to coins again in the 1990's. Now I could put away what I wanted to save for a change. (pun intended) I started collecting every thing. So I got a lot of coins, but the internet sparked an interest in something new to me. Varieties Started getting on line first with ebay coin chat. They were talking more about every thing else, but about 5% about coins. But I ran into a collector from Missouri who went by cd. He was very informed on things that he liked. RPMS (re-Punched-Mint marks) and doubled dies (hub doubled incorrectly on the die making the devices enlarged). This was a new thing to learn. RPMs came easy to me. But things were coming slowly to me. He often gave yes or no answers. Not much of an explanation of what he was seeing. But the longer I hung out with him, the more I started to learn. He was always trying to start on doubled dies, but I was content with RPMs at that time. I started taking images with an cheap little scope that connected to the computer. It did a far job, but the image were terrible.

The biggest issues were the plastic lens in the scope always made copper coin look pink in the images. Also the issue of clarity was not present on them. They just looked cheesy. Then He hooked me up with a scope like the one he had. Then I got started editing images. Soon I kept getting better as the thousands of images were taken/edited/posted. (I figure today the number of images I've edited are probably in the 100,000 image area) He was stating a new web site as he was getting tired of the ebay chat banter. We meet a lot of nice folks that are still around today where ever go post. But he wanted me to take images of the RPM portion of the site. I felt it a challenge, but I would see the benefit of that on the internet. It would be a reference to not only identify the RPMs for that year, but also markers and in different die states. The first batch of images were my own creations, and it was well taken. Later on different requirements made them even better. This got my start on the variety world at the time. But moving on, coppercoins decided to eliminate the chat portion and I moved onto Lincoln Cent Resource. That was interesting, but the challenge was not there that I felt on the other site. I tried Coin talk, but they were not in what I like the most. So on to CCF.

I was introduced to this by a friend in Tucson that was here at the time. It was a rocky start for me. He was looking for one of the State Quarters at the time, and I mention I could help him out with that one. I was still in the trial period and got a warning that I could not hand those things on the forum. But I took my lumps. Moved on and helped as much as possible on the questions asked.

I had always been a big fan of images. Images were everywhere, but when I needed one, where was it? So I started an all out battle to collect and edit images to suit the purposes on the site and others as well. Soon I had hundred-thousands of them I stated with the concept, why give an answer of yes or no, when with just a little more effort I can share what I see in a posted picture. This has worked out very well. Soon the new ones learning at the time were soon teach with the same concept. I not only used overlays to show a die match for RPMs, but for also doubled dies. Noting the small differences between the two. Soon I was using side by sides that show this even better. Thus I encourage those who can create images, to make a duplicate image of a normal coin. With them side by side or upper and lower, then you can discern the differences between the two images. So Gary W, this is where you come in. You can continue to use the information to pass on to others. That was always my goal. To become a better teacher. Some grow quickly, some go away. But the ones who go away, often come back and bring us something new they found. We are still learning, seeing something things for the first time that were there, or are something new to the forums. It is an addiction to not only learn, but to share to new ones who some along. Glad you are here.

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Wow coop, so Charles Daughtry got you into this, thats why I see your name on a lot of pictures on Coppercoins. I will always remember this story as I try to help your goal of helping others learn. Thanks again for always teaching me and the members of this forum. When I just got here, I didn't know anything and because of the members of this forum but mostly you, I have two listings. Thanks again for all of the knowledge.
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Coop. How true that is. I was just talking with a few guys the other day about how many cool and rare coins I have let slip through my fingers growing up. Taking dads change and Going down the street to grab some penny candy. If only we knew then what we know now. That couple of cents then could have have provided a morgage payment today lol. Knowledge is key for success in anything we do in life. You couldnt have said it better. It Truely is an addiction. The more you get the more you hunger for it. I'm still trying to instil that part of life into my children I was just getting into my youngest son the other day about how instead of watching all these YouTube channels and playing all these video games why dont you take one hour out of your day to watch something truely informing. After about ten minutes I gave up and he said dad, What if I were to take my knowledge and become a video game designer. I laughed and said then by all means get back to that youtube channel. Made me think just because I dont agree with what hes doing. It could become a good thing for him and hopefully one day provide for his family doing something he enjoys. Lifes one big ball of craziness and if you can get some clarity and enlightenment in any area of it. Take every ounce. In our case Grams lol. I have finally found an outlet in life in something as simple as Error coin collecting. I am doing just what you said you did when you started back up. Awhile ago I got everycoin I could get my hand on and started learning everything I could about them. Quickly followed by books when I realized that there was going to be much more learning then I thought.its funny because I am really enjoying the RPM area myself. With them books, and your help as well as this website. I have learned a ton and the knowledge is truely appreciated and already being passed down. My kids are already sick of me saying Wow. hey come and look at this coin.so thank you Coop.
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