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Obscure One - Vietnam HI Tong Nguen Bao (Rebel Coinage?)

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Finally sat down to drudge through and downsize the massive lot of cash coins I bought a little while ago (so my wife will stop giving me the evil eye every time a new package comes), and got stumped on this one:

Obscure-One---Vietnam-HI-Tong-Nguen-Bao-Rebel-Coinage?

I was able to find it at:

http://art-hanoi.com/toda/21.html#274
(#274)

But that's about where it ends, under "uncertain rebel/prince coinage"

Calling upon the hive mind-- anyone able to provide more info?
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06/24/2016 10:24 am
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I am only a casual collector of Chinese coins, but it looks a LOT like some of the Shen Tsung Cash from China (1068-1085). If it is from Vietnam, I have some re-attributing to do.
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You might be on to something there, but the rest of this lot was mostly Qing dynasty (both the cast cash and those machine struck 10/20 cash) and Vietnamese cash from the 19th century. Shen Tsung would make this the oldest in the whole lot by nearly 600 years, but I guess that might be more likely than a Vietnamese rebel.
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It is a Xi Ning Yuan Bao from the North Song Dynasty. If it is Annamese, then it should be very thin and weigh much less than a normal cash coin. Annam is known for copying Chinese issues in their own coinage, albeit their coins were much smaller.
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