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Authenticity Of Double Struck Barber 25c

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 Posted 06/30/2016  1:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ame5057 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone have an opinion on the possible authenticity of this quarter? My initial hunch was probably not genuine, but the doubling of the stars and the rim on the right side obverse make me think there's a chance it is. The scratches on the surface are another indication of it being non-genuine but I am still on the fence. No information on how it was obtained is available. Thanks for any opinions! Weight and dimensions are correct btw.

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 Posted 06/30/2016  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoojiBoyTravis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF! We define Barber coinage as "classic coins", so a staff will eventually move your thread to the appropriate category.

As for your question I am quite stunned by this one. I'm not good with such things We'll wait for the experts to come in for their say
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 Posted 06/30/2016  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say no. Looks like a struck with fake "soft dies" coin. Coin was pressed into a brass plate or some other "soft" metal, shifted and then pressed in again. The impression left in the plate by the first pressing acts as a die and forms a shallow slightly distorted secondary impression.
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 Posted 06/30/2016  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it would have to be struck twice in the collar, so that double stars would be side by side not on the rim of the coin.in my opinion it is not a true double die.
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 Posted 06/30/2016  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Conder's assessment, it was restruck with a soft die and is not a legitimate error. The right side of the rim has been flattened and most importantly, there is no corresponding double strike on the reverse.
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 Posted 06/30/2016  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree fully.
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Very cool piece. I can't speak to the error's authenticity, but the base coin does appear to be genuine. It would be very uncommon to see a double strike on one face of the coin. I would trust Conder and Biokemist's opinion in most instances though
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 Posted 06/30/2016  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, could not be double-struck on one side only.
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 Posted 07/01/2016  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is one way to be double struck on one side only. Coin remains in the collar seated in the anvil die and a loose hammer die rotates between strikes. The anvil dies side will be perfectly on register so not show a double strike while the hammer side will show the second strike as having rotated around the central point. That isn't the case here, the second strike isn't rotated it is offset.
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 Posted 07/01/2016  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ame5057 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your input, it is greatly appreciated!
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i am surprised the weight is correct.
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 Posted 07/02/2016  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why? It is almost certainly a genuine quarter, just not a genuine error.
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sorry, with a quick glance last night I thought it was counterfeit. I understand now this was done after it left the mint.
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First off I do not claim to be an expert. But there appears to be a multiple strikes to the obverse side. The cap appears to be double to a normal Barber
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It was struck with a soft die. That's why it looks like that. It is not an error. The coin is genuine but the error is not
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