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Father And Son Jumping Into Ancient Coins!

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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where you able to get a copy of ERIC I, it's would be very helpful. It's not as current as ERIC II but it's free. http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/eric.html
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 Posted 07/05/2016  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin 4:

http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/135/135i.htm

Theodosius I

Coin 6 if you rotate the second pic 90 degrees clockwise, I see a large Epsilon, which would make it a Byzantine 5 nummi. Perhaps like Father-And-Son-Jumping-Into-Ancient-Coins!
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> Where you able to get a copy of ERIC I, it's would be very helpful. It's not as current as ERIC II but it's free. http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/eric.html

Thank you for that! I looked over ERIC I and proceeded to purchase ERIC II!
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The Greek letter E indicates that the coin is a pentanummium. This is seen on Byzantine coins. I have to admit this one has me a bit stumped. At first I thought it was Justin I, but the legend is botched and the Cross to the right of the letter isn't found on his coins. So at this point I can't say who it is. Maybe some one with better eye sight than me can read the legend a little better.
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would any of you continue cleaning the coins at this point? I feel there is potential value in cleaning the first 4 coins, I don't know about the rest.
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No, you really don't want to clean any more. I can make out the first two letters DN which is normal, but I can't make out the other letters. If you can help there we might figure this one out.
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Echizento, that pentanummium is one I found on Google to illustrate the type. His is in much rougher shape, and IMO probably doesn't have anything else to salvage under all that corrosion.

A lot of these don't have much hope, unfortunately.

Coins 1-3 probably have the most promise. I would spot clean 1 and 2 where the dirt is covering up the devices, and the Helena probably needs a peroxide bath to take off that thick layer. After the dirt has been thinned out, I would probably scrub gently with a toothbrush, then rub gently with your fingers to see if you can get a nice contrast between the fields and devices. That will probably be the most attractive thing for your coin.

Coin 4 can he cleaned some, but I honestly fell like it was heavily circulated before being buried, so there is not likely much beneath the dirt.

Coin 5 the patina is thick enough to hold all of the design. It's starting to flake off and will only get worse with cleaning. It's a cull.

Coin 6 is a goner. Except for that E, there is nothing left of what it used to be.

7-9 are slugs

10 looks like it's already been cleaned

Honestly can't tell with coin 11. I would give it a peroxide bath... Can't get much worse than it already is!
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Good work there with the i.d.'ing, Steve. And good advice.
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>A lot of these don't have much hope, unfortunately.

Thank you for confirming what I was thinking. I took coins 4-11 and am giving them a h2o2 bath for 30+ hours to see what happens - I sort of wanted to try the "goners" first to see if the peroxide bath has any unwanted side-effects, or noticeable positive effects first hand. Maybe later today I will work on the other coins from the first batch that I didn't have much hope for and the 2nd batch of coins - I'll post the pics of anything I think might be worth sharing
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I know this post is a few months old, but it has a lot of useful information all in one place. Really love the specifics on each method from distilled water to oil to hydrogen peroxide.
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Hydrogen peroxide itīs a very dangerous product...
Be careful!
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100% hydrogen peroxide is dangerous, but the over the counter bottles in (US) supermarkets is diluted to about 3% if memory serves. It's safe enough to use as a mouth rinse or to disinfect cuts.

It's a shame Mike never came back... I was curious to see the results, and what was in those other lots!
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